Meateater sells a controlling stake to anti-gun Democrat?

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Rinella has done more for hunting than the entire group fussing about his business move.


Exactly.

Do I wish that an anti-gunner wasn't involved in any way? Yep, sure do.

Do I think Steve is in any way anti-gun or will turn Meat Eater anti-gun? Not at all.

If something proves me wrong in this then I'll change my mind but until then Steve is one of the most influential figures in hunting and has brought a ton of new hunters into the fold and has likely changed the minds of many folks from anti-hunting AND anti-gun mentalities.
 

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Exactly.

Do I wish that an anti-gunner wasn't involved in any way? Yep, sure do.

Do I think Steve is in any way anti-gun or will turn Meat Eater anti-gun? Not at all.

If something proves me wrong in this then I'll change my mind but until then Steve is one of the most influential figures in hunting and has brought a ton of new hunters into the fold and has likely changed the minds of many folks from anti-hunting AND anti-gun mentalities.

I agree with this but it’s if all his hard work and profits help fund the anti’s is it a wash or a win?
 

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I agree with this but it’s if all his hard work and profits help fund the anti’s is it a wash or a win?


This is exactly a criticism of BHA. Pro-public land politicians lean left, when they are elected they are ambivalent on gun/hunting rights, so it’s right back to the ring to fight the very people that were just elected. Friggin complicated...
 

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This is exactly a criticism of BHA. Pro-public land politicians lean left, when they are elected they are ambivalent on gun/hunting rights, so it’s right back to the ring to fight the very people that were just elected. Friggin complicated...


This is exactly a criticism of Pro gun lobby. Pro-gun politicians lean right , when they are elected they are ambivalent on conservation, and persevering public access. They are also cozy with the extraction lobby, pro land transfer to states and private special interests. and so it’s right back to the ring to fight the very people that were just elected. Friggin complicated...
 

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This is exactly a criticism of Pro gun lobby. Pro-gun politicians lean right , when they are elected they are ambivalent on conservation, and persevering public access. They are also cozy with the extraction lobby, pro land transfer to states and private special interests. and so it’s right back to the ring to fight the very people that were just elected. Friggin complicated...


That’s exactly right. Don’t think I’m not fully aware if this. Those of us in the middle are just that - in the middle. Single issue voting is a hell of a luxury. For the rest of us, it’s torture.
 

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A SJW Social Justice Warrior is a person that advocates (endlessly) for people of color based on a presumption of guilt....that whites are inherently privileged. As Caucasians we 'owe' every non-white just for being ourselves. Reparations, jobs, postions of power--its all on the table for non-white, less fortunate folks because they are somehow owed that.
It's a cancerous movement, steeped in Antifa violence. It's promoted everywhere by tenured Marxist professors and progressive politicians. And some here at this forum. I wouldn't have believed that, but read this lunacy that essentially labels guys as clan because they rightly reject the SJW movement:
its something whiteknights call people that question their heros.

Wanna talk division? Despicable posting.
 

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A SJW Social Justice Warrior is a person that advocates (endlessly) for people of color based on a presumption of guilt....that whites are inherently privileged. As Caucasians we 'owe' every non-white just for being ourselves. Reparations, jobs, postions of power--its all on the table for non-white, less fortunate folks because they are somehow owed that.
It's a cancerous movement, steeped in Antifa violence. It's promoted everywhere by tenured Marxist professors and progressive politicians. And some here at this forum. I wouldn't have believed that, but read this lunacy that essentially labels guys as clan because they rightly reject the SJW movement:


Wanna talk division? Despicable posting.


If you're attempting to say my comment had anything to do with race, you are completely wrong. It was a joke. The white knights were coming to aid of their damsel in distress (meateater inc).

Get over yourself. Nothing to do with race. Are you going to say "snow flake" is racist too? Good gawd. Because your great hero used it....matter of fact lots of people in this thread used the term....are you triggered?
 
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If that was your intent, I stand corrected and apologize, publicly.

I took the referrence to refer to SJWs overall. Those creeps are the enemy.
 
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I originally posted “ugh” but that was not due to the original topic but rather due to how most reacted without having facts. It’s something the media does so often. It’s simply not fair nor is it usually correct. After hearing Steve’s explanation and stance, I am glad I did not jump. He did a great job at explaining and defending his choice. I watch CNN and Fox. I do this because I want both sides and it makes an individual stronger when talking with the opposition, whichever side. For Steve to have individuals who typically fight against hunting and conservation on his platform he is simply fighting the fight. He does way more than I will ever be able to do and he does it well. For me, I will continue to be a part of his platform. By the way, thanks for posting this link.
 

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Maybe.

What if Rinella's personal mission was to bring education and awareness to hunting and fishing lifestyles in a manner that helps preserve and enhance them in the future. Would $10 million+ additional backing to help expand his reach and message be selling out?

Nobody sees the irony in spending a Democrat’s money to promote hunting?
 
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Nobody sees the irony in spending a Democrat’s money to promote hunting?

Yeah but for every penny spent of the Democrats money he’ll get 10 cents in return to fund his causes. I mean he didn’t invest just to spend money or donate to a hunter.
 

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Nobody sees the irony in spending a Democrat’s money to promote hunting?

The way I see it, if a anti-gunner wants to invest in something that promote hunting and, by extension, guns then so be it.

Bringing more hunters into the fold and bringing the 80% who are on the fence over to at least being friendly to our side does way more good for hunting and guns than the damage any one anti- can do throwing cash around.

And yes, I am fully aware that the 2A has nothing to do with hunting however hunting, portrayed in a positive light is the best ambassador for the 2A that we have.
 

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The way I see it, if a anti-gunner wants to invest in something that promote hunting and, by extension, guns then so be it.

Bringing more hunters into the fold and bringing the 80% who are on the fence over to at least being friendly to our side does way more good for hunting and guns than the damage any one anti- can do throwing cash around.

And yes, I am fully aware that the 2A has nothing to do with hunting however hunting, portrayed in a positive light is the best ambassador for the 2A that we have.

I really like this take. One of the best ways to combat anti 2A folks is to actually expose them to guns so they can get over the intrinsic fear that, in my opinion, fuels most of their nonsense. I've taken a few anti gun folks to the range and they have all, at the very least, softened their stance just by educating themselves more on the topic.
 

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I really like this take. One of the best ways to combat anti 2A folks is to actually expose them to guns so they can get over the intrinsic fear that, in my opinion, fuels most of their nonsense. I've taken a few anti gun folks to the range and they have all, at the very least, softened their stance just by educating themselves more on the topic.


I think an issue is that when seemingly competing sides form any kind of alliance, there is the issue of reciprocal credence, and that messes with people. Not saying it shouldn’t, it just does. And it’s a bigger deal to conservatives than liberals. Please read up on your Jonathan Haidt and his moral foundations of the left/right to see why. This is a perfect example of his work.
 
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