Meateater sells a controlling stake to anti-gun Democrat?

[Dusty2426]

Agree it's laughable. Especially how quick they are to point it out in other behavior and yet they act the same way.

Also love how people jump to conclusions that everyone is on a side. Just be cool stay in the center so they can lean the “popular direction”

 

[FLAK]

Several of the above comments are why Hunters and Conservatives may lose our way of life. You cant have it both ways anymore, the Left wont allow it. If Hunters and Conservatives held their ground as well as the Left Wing Wackos we would be in much better shape. It's a new world we live in. You cant have it both ways anymore.

 

[Dusty2426]

I'm confused, I didn't know anything about the Benchmade controversy until you pointed me to their Instagram post. So you're upset with Benchmade (and Meateater as guilty by association) for helping the local police department fulfill their lawful duties? If they can't legally sell the guns and are required by law to destroy them, what's the big deal?

And if you read the statement. They said it was a departmental policy not illegal. So they participated in a DECISION to destroy them not a Requirement. Makes a huge difference.

 

[Jeremy8709]

Rinella has done a good job of bridging the gap to those with no opinion on hunting. I don’t believe he’s ever claimed to be a gun rights advocate even though he has strong opinions on the 2A. Shown by his quotes in The Federalist(complete joke). I’ll reserve judgement until I see Meateater take an anti 2A approach like that article suggest.

The NRA and Gun Rights advocates could learn a thing or two from Rinella. You’re not trying to convince those that disagree with you, you’re trying to convince those that have no opinion.

Right now the NRA is losing that battle.

You couldn't be more right! Pro-nuance, anti-bullshit.

 

[Trial153]

Also love how people jump to conclusions that everyone is on a side. Just be cool stay in the center so they can lean the “popular direction”

You dont have to jump very high to see that most everyone is on "A" side. The ideological and political tribalism that is constantly on display is the hight of stupidity. Especially considering how both parties and practitioners have sold their followers out at every turn. Rational measured responses are now the exception and looked at with disdain from both sides.
So with that in mind. I am not seeing your center and " popular direction"
Carry on and continue the outrage.

 

[ezmorningrebel]

And if you read the statement. They said it was a departmental policy not illegal. So they participated in a DECISION to destroy them not a Requirement. Makes a huge difference.

 

[ODB]

You couldn't be more right! Pro-nuance, anti-bullshit.

I’ve often found people use a pro-nuance stance as an excuse to not have an opinion on a subject; by making everything equivocal, always. Their answers usually start with, “Well, it depends...”. Yay postmodernism.

 

[twall13]

And if you read the statement. They said it was a departmental policy not illegal. So they participated in a DECISION to destroy them not a Requirement. Makes a huge difference.

Policy, legality, whatever the wording, why are people upset? It's not like they took your guns and destroyed them. They are getting rid of guns that are taking up storage space at this point. All the liability and other issues of the police selling firearms don't leave them much of an option so what are they supposed to do with them and how is it effecting you? I love my guns too, but I don't see how this relates to any anti 2nd amendment sentiments at all on the part of Benchmade or anyone else for that matter.

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[Okhotnik]

No

They are not required to destroy firearms. Many smaller police departments auctioned seized firearms etc to help fund departments.

I'm confused, I didn't know anything about the Benchmade controversy until you pointed me to their Instagram post. So you're upset with Benchmade (and Meateater as guilty by association) for helping the local police department fulfill their lawful duties? If they can't legally sell the guns and are required by law to destroy them, what's the big deal?

 

[ODB]

Policy, legality, whatever the wording, why are people upset? It's not like they took your guns and destroyed them. They are getting rid of guns that are taking up storage space at this point. All the liability and other issues of the police selling firearms don't leave them much of an option so what are they supposed to do with them and how is it effecting you? I love my guns too, but I don't see how this relates to any anti 2nd amendment sentiments at all on the part of Benchmade or anyone else for that matter.

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The “they aren’t your guns” excuse is as lame as the “I have nothing to hide” argument when surveillance overreach is brought up.

 

[twall13]

See post 346 above and also my latest response. Some of those guns were required to be destroyed by court order. And regardless, if I was in their shoes I wouldn't want the liability of a police force selling guns too citizens in today's litigious society so I'm not against a policy decision that way either. Again, they aren't taking these guns from anyone so what's the harm?

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[CorbLand]

The “they aren’t your guns” excuse is as lame as the “I have nothing to hide” argument when surveillance overreach is brought up.

I think he is saying its not like they walked into your house, took your guns for no reason and then destroyed them. As in, all the guns that were destroyed were already in custody by the police for being used in a crime or having been turned in by someone to have them destroyed. I dont think he is saying you should turn a blind eye because this doesnt directly affect you.

 

[Dusty2426]

Policy, legality, whatever the wording, why are people upset? It's not like they took your guns and destroyed them. They are getting rid of guns that are taking up storage space at this point. All the liability and other issues of the police selling firearms don't leave them much of an option so what are they supposed to do with them and how is it effecting you? I love my guns too, but I don't see how this relates to any anti 2nd amendment sentiments at all on the part of Benchmade or anyone else for that matter.

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Were those guns obtained within the rights of the constitution? We don’t know. Some were handed in some were confiscated. What crimes were committed? So if the guns were illegally obtained by the police department and benchmade assisted in the destruction of said property your ok with it? I’m sure benchmade isn’t the only shop In Oregon city with a plasma cutter and a grinder. Picking and choosing what rights we stand up for will be the death of all our 2a rights. Oregon is very anti 2a and benchmade has financially supported openly anti 2a politicians. How has it affected me personally? Not one bit. But being a sportsman and hunter I worry about what it could affect in the future. I’m not upset or mad or kicking and screaming right wing like some have alluded to I’m just saying a sportsman driven company participated in destruction of guns in an anti 2a state. Makes you go hmmmm

 

[CorbLand]

Were those guns obtained within the rights of the constitution? We don’t know. Some were handed in some were confiscated. What crimes were committed? So if the guns were illegally obtained by the police department and benchmade assisted in the destruction of said property your ok with it? I’m sure benchmade isn’t the only shop In Oregon city with a plasma cutter and a grinder. Picking and choosing what rights we stand up for will be the death of all our 2a rights. Oregon is very anti 2a and benchmade has financially supported openly anti 2a politicians. How has it affected me personally? Not one bit. But being a sportsman and hunter I worry about what it could affect in the future. I’m not upset or mad or kicking and screaming right wing like some have alluded to I’m just saying a sportsman driven company participated in destruction of guns in an anti 2a state. Makes you go hmmmm

I would imagine that there is a policy in place that states they have to hold the guns for so long and that the trial has to be completed before you can destroy the guns. I would say that it is safe to say that they were confiscated legally.

Also, is Benchmade really a sportsmans driven company? I know a lot of guys that own their knifes that dont own guns, hunt or fish. They sell a product, not an ideal.

 

[twall13]

Were those guns obtained within the rights of the constitution? We don’t know. Some were handed in some were confiscated. What crimes were committed? So if the guns were illegally obtained by the police department and benchmade assisted in the destruction of said property your ok with it? I’m sure benchmade isn’t the only shop In Oregon city with a plasma cutter and a grinder. Picking and choosing what rights we stand up for will be the death of all our 2a rights. Oregon is very anti 2a and benchmade has financially supported openly anti 2a politicians. How has it affected me personally? Not one bit. But being a sportsman and hunter I worry about what it could affect in the future. I’m not upset or mad or kicking and screaming right wing like some have alluded to I’m just saying a sportsman driven company participated in destruction of guns in an anti 2a state. Makes you go hmmmm

Are we seriously jumping to the police department obtained the guns illegally now? How far do you have to stretch things to make them fit your narrative? And Corbland's post above reflects my sentiments. I don't want them taking guns from anyone, me, you or any other citizen with a legal right to them. That's simply not the case here. Regardless, this will be my last post on the subject because I can see I'm getting nowhere. I'm unsubscribing from the thread, good luck with the conversation everyone.

 

[fngTony]

So the benchmade thread got locked and now we have to bring that bs into this thread?

 

[dieselchessy]

All,

In Oregon its not uncommon to have "Gun turn-ins". Often these events offer some gift card or such from a local business to folks who turn in fire arms. Any fire arm.
Many guns are turned in by older widows, folks who inherited firearms they don't use, old rusty inoperative guns, you name it.

In these events it is mandated that all firearms turned in will be destroyed. Its part of the deal that folks who turn in guns know what's going to happen to those guns.

So its fully expected that Oregon Police would quite likely have a large number of legally acquired (willing buyer/willing seller) guns that would be required by law to be destroyed.
Benchmade then volunteering to help the Police fulfill that obligation would seem to be a positive undertaking.


(news article about gun turn-in)
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2012/08/gun-buying_enthusiasts_crash_f.html

 

[tdhanses]

Man people need to relax.

 

[tracker12]

I’ve been a meateater fan since the very beginning of his first shows. I’m not especially concerned about any possible liberal ties here but I’m continually disappointed by Rinella’s commercialization of his business. The podcasts and tv shows still have an ok message but they are just giant commercials for boots and cooking equipment now. The website is a big sales front for all his swag and books. I’m headed to my first “live show” next month hopefully it’s not a big marketplace wanting my cash.

He just formed the new corporation and swallowed up a bunch of his competition and now this? Unfortunately I assume this business sale is all about the $$$.


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Must we forget he is trying to make a living plain and simple. I like him and will continue to watch and cook from his book.

 

[Vansomerenc]

He just had a big podcast on guns and how he’s buying a suppressor and the hearing protection act.