mitchellmountain
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I know this won't be popular, but with how I have seen a lot of hunters shoot, that can be said for a lot of people.
ClearCreek
I am in complete agreement with this
I know this won't be popular, but with how I have seen a lot of hunters shoot, that can be said for a lot of people.
ClearCreek
What platform? And how much/ how long does it take to get the Ok for a suppressor?My 8 year old son shoots a suppressed 6.5 Creedmoor accurately to 300 yards.
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Thanks! Just barely getting my feet wet with reloading. Like literally the only thing I have handloaded so far were some .44 Mag's. For the moment I think I'll just shut-up and put more rounds downrange with 150's now, rather than the 168gr and see if maybe that helps me change my opinion here. I did notice a difference with 150's. I recently had to re-sight-in the new optic on that .308 Win and this time tried some 150's (Power Shok Copper's so not the greatest BC, but they were less expensive for initial zero-ing. And I mean... the target wasn't exactly at 100yd I don't think (I'd forgotten my range-finder, and the other gentleman had already left with his, when I finally had time to do my re-sight-in after we'd spent the day supervising all the boy scouts shooting. But it should have been pretty damn close to 100, long story, the backdrop on this private range was weird the backstop was angled. Initilly had that target out at 90yds, then when the scouts all left I could move it over to the slightly longer side that went the full 100yds. Tell ya this though, my last shot after the last adjustment was dead-on the center of the bullseye! And I was predictably seeing how my clicks were shifting the POI with each re-adjust.GDog- If you’re a hand loader, an option for your 308 is lighter bullets. I load 130 grain Barnes TTSXs in my 308. Those rounds are definitely lighter recoiling than 150 grain loads and the BC isn’t bad.
I use 110 grain TTSXs for my 13 year old daughter’s 308, which I load down to 3100 FPS. Recoil is similar to shooting 100 grain loads out of a 243. On game performance has been stellar.
Just my thoughts on the subject. Best of luck to you and your son.
Hrmm... ok... so sounds like he'd probably NOT do well with 6.5 CM then. Hrmmm.... meh... sounds like it'd probably be best if I end up getting like a .243 Win. And just realize I'm gonna have to put in some work to figure out how to close the distance in that Open country setting. (Which is definitely going to be challenging/interesting, but I guess that's why they call it hunting and not shooting, right?6.5 CM kicks more like a .308 than .243 IMO. .243 is the answer to the OP's question, but I agree with the "forget about the 650 yards" comment for a kid. 200 is a poke for most 13 year olds - even those that grew up shooting. But of course, everyone thinks their kid is the exception to the rule.
They do make low recoil rounds for kids might be a option alsoThanks! Just barely getting my feet wet with reloading. Like literally the only thing I have handloaded so far were some .44 Mag's. For the moment I think I'll just shut-up and put more rounds downrange with 150's now, rather than the 168gr and see if maybe that helps me change my opinion here. I did notice a difference with 150's. I recently had to re-sight-in the new optic on that .308 Win and this time tried some 150's (Power Shok Copper's so not the greatest BC, but they were less expensive for initial zero-ing. And I mean... the target wasn't exactly at 100yd I don't think (I'd forgotten my range-finder, and the other gentleman had already left with his, when I finally had time to do my re-sight-in after we'd spent the day supervising all the boy scouts shooting. But it should have been pretty damn close to 100, long story, the backdrop on this private range was weird the backstop was angled. Initilly had that target out at 90yds, then when the scouts all left I could move it over to the slightly longer side that went the full 100yds. Tell ya this though, my last shot after the last adjustment was dead-on the center of the bullseye! And I was predictably seeing how my clicks were shifting the POI with each re-adjust.
Yeah, I'd seen those 110gr loadings and was thinking about at first maybe giving those a try for coyotes. And seeing if I liked 'em.
What platform? And how much/ how long does it take to get the Ok for a suppressor?
Thanks! Just barely getting my feet wet with reloading. Like literally the only thing I have handloaded so far were some .44 Mag's. For the moment I think I'll just shut-up and put more rounds downrange with 150's now, rather than the 168gr and see if maybe that helps me change my opinion here. I did notice a difference with 150's. I recently had to re-sight-in the new optic on that .308 Win and this time tried some 150's (Power Shok Copper's so not the greatest BC, but they were less expensive for initial zero-ing. And I mean... the target wasn't exactly at 100yd I don't think (I'd forgotten my range-finder, and the other gentleman had already left with his, when I finally had time to do my re-sight-in after we'd spent the day supervising all the boy scouts shooting. But it should have been pretty damn close to 100, long story, the backdrop on this private range was weird the backstop was angled. Initilly had that target out at 90yds, then when the scouts all left I could move it over to the slightly longer side that went the full 100yds. Tell ya this though, my last shot after the last adjustment was dead-on the center of the bullseye! And I was predictably seeing how my clicks were shifting the POI with each re-adjust.
Yeah, I'd seen those 110gr loadings and was thinking about at first maybe giving those a try for coyotes. And seeing if I liked 'em.
Sorry.. Question... RE: "Stamps for Suppressor" - Does a person have to buy the actual surpressor they intend to use and then fill out whatever form they must submit with that info? Or... do you submit some form.. and the money.... wait forever... then get back the stamp and then you can buy what they will allow you to buy?It’s a Curtis action with a 22” Mueller barrel. Stamps for the suppressor are running about 12 months the last I heard.
Meh... I thank you for supplying the info here.. but since not lead-free.. won't help me, unfortunately.
Sorry.. Question... RE: "Stamps for Suppressor" - Does a person have to buy the actual surpressor they intend to use and then fill out whatever form they must submit with that info? Or... do you submit some form.. and the money.... wait forever... then get back the stamp and then you can buy what they will allow you to buy?
Do what you need to do for you. Let your son inform you on how much recoil he can handle (under your supervision).
Much like yourself part of my, meh, what we'll call *dislike* for the levels of recoil in the .308 Win is certainly from joint damage, and labral tears and the looseness I have in there after finally broke down and got some arthoscopic in there for a sub-acrymonial decompression. Ya see both of my collar-bones are "custom-bend" jobs! One I did with Titanium one without. The without out... my shooting side... the collarbone has quite a bit of tenting to it. So the distal end of the clavicle used to push down against the bursa sac in the shoulder, and would just jab the shit outta my bursa in the shoulder for example doing military press. It'd feel like you're getting stabbed with a javelin. And I mean... that kinda thing has just.. well it's just been my norm since forever. And you get used to pushing in the presence of pain. But... like mid-40's and into 50's... well... stuff just starts ripping apart when I'd try to push decent weight around. So I had to just stop. Because my pain threshold, I know how to push it far beyond, and do, when I'm in the zone and being aggro. And at a certain point your body looks at you and says "Now that is quite enough that young mister!" And reminds you who's boss with a scary feeling rip or a tear just to re-remind you what it's talking about.TheGDog I’m with you on recoil, but mine is age and arthritis. I shoot a 30-06 and was debating a 7mm08 after getting 2 for my grandkids. My gunsmith recommended a mercury recoil reducer, added about 6 ozs and would drop recoil to about what the 7mm08 was. I had it put in but haven’t had a chance to try it yet to see the result but everything I’ve read says it works. Now, if you just want a new rifle, you can’t go wrong with the 6.5 Manbun, 7mm08, or the various comparable calibers. They will all do the job.