Kalifornia

[Desk Jockey]

i lived in California for a few years. Still go back often. It has a lot going for it in terms of outdoor recreation. Can’t beat the combination of weather, ocean and mountain access anywhere in the US IMO. I did t hunt when I was there but Hunting is a bit of a mixed bag from what I gather. Better up north and in the rural areas.

Politics are another matter. Dominated by urban / suburban, heavily liberal sensibilities of LA/SF/SD. Pay attention to there politics even if you don’t live there. Agriculture products aren’t their only exports. CA is a test track for liberal political ideologies, strategies and mostly importantly tactics. It isn’t limited to simply exporting the concepts. As Californians decamp their state and diffuse through the West they bring their ideologies and activism. I have seen “migration” stats suggest 50k Californians are moving to Nevada each year and 30k to Colorado. Not sure about the Montana numbers but I bet it doesn’t take a lot of politically active Californians to start to make noise in your major cities given their populations are 30-100k. Granted some of that movement is offset by some movement into California on a net basis but you are swapping “natives” that may possess a generally more conservative political basis for “immigrants” that may have a generally more liberal bias. Overtime, that will start to shift the complexion your political landscape in more traditionally conservative states. You could find yourself in a similar situation in the west where the big cities take on a heavy liberal bias and that drives the whole states political agenda.

 

[flyinsquirel]

What’s he doing with all that federal money he doesn’t want to give back?


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We waste money in so many ways it's really hard to tell which $$ went were.

 

[Middleofnowhere]

or ……………. if kuiu values the hunting tradition it is founded on, maybe they might consider relocating to a state that actually approves of them.

Kuiu is nothing but an “importer”. They have to be near a port to take in their chinese made junk.

 

[kiddogy]

Kuiu is nothing but an “importer”. They have to be near a port to take in their chinese made junk.

I own A few of their products . may be made in china, I can't speak to that, but it's quality will match any thing made in America these days. the average American worker today is NOT quality minded.

 

[Middleofnowhere]

I own A few of their products . may be made in china, I can't speak to that, but it's quality will match any thing made in America these days. the average American worker today is NOT quality minded.

Interesting
You slam Kuiu for their headquarters being in California, but defend them for importing 90% of their product from the Peoples Republic of China. Then you slam the American worker...

 

[Mosby]

I just unsubscribed from KUIU this morning.

 

[juan trueno]

... it's quality will match any thing made in America these days. the average American worker today is NOT quality minded.

Yeah. American workers are total turds, but Chinee workers are freaking sweet!! I’m going to head out and throw rocks at some of these no good slack jawed bastards out here replacing snapped off power poles. Jokers could learn something about hard work from those old chinee railroad boys

 

[kiddogy]

Interesting
You slam Kuiu for their headquarters being in California, but defend them for importing 90% of their product from the Peoples Republic of China. Then you slam the American worker...

I don't recall slamming kuiu for any thing????????????? I did invite them to move their headqaurters to my home town when they could no longer stomach calis regs.


quote -"if kuiu values the hunting tradition it is founded on, maybe they might consider relocating to a state that actually approves of them." end quote is this what you refer to as "slamming" kuiu?????????? if so, I sure don't see it that way.


look at the American workers , be honest . the average American workers are not the cream of the crop by pretty much any standards. most employers know this.

 

[Middleofnowhere]

look at the American workers , be honest . American workers are not the cream of the crop by pretty much any standards. most employers know this.

Are you looking in the mirror when you see this “poor excuse” of an American worker?

 

[kiddogy]

Are you looking in the mirror when you see this “poor excuse” of an American worker?

wow .talk about a train wreck!

no, I am not ! but judging by your reaction ,I would wager you are among those of which I speak.

 

[LaHunter]

i lived in California for a few years. Still go back often. It has a lot going for it in terms of outdoor recreation. Can’t beat the combination of weather, ocean and mountain access anywhere in the US IMO. I did t hunt when I was there but Hunting is a bit of a mixed bag from what I gather. Better up north and in the rural areas.

Politics are another matter. Dominated by urban / suburban, heavily liberal sensibilities of LA/SF/SD. Pay attention to there politics even if you don’t live there. Agriculture products aren’t their only exports. CA is a test track for liberal political ideologies, strategies and mostly importantly tactics. It isn’t limited to simply exporting the concepts. As Californians decamp their state and diffuse through the West they bring their ideologies and activism. I have seen “migration” stats suggest 50k Californians are moving to Nevada each year and 30k to Colorado. Not sure about the Montana numbers but I bet it doesn’t take a lot of politically active Californians to start to make noise in your major cities given their populations are 30-100k. Granted some of that movement is offset by some movement into California on a net basis but you are swapping “natives” that may possess a generally more conservative political basis for “immigrants” that may have a generally more liberal bias. Overtime, that will start to shift the complexion your political landscape in more traditionally conservative states. You could find yourself in a similar situation in the west where the big cities take on a heavy liberal bias and that drives the whole states political agenda.

What you describe sounds like a cancer spreading

 

[kiddogy]

Yeah. American workers are total turds, but Chinee workers are freaking sweet!! I’m going to head out and throw rocks at some of these no good slack jawed bastards out here replacing snapped off power poles. Jokers could learn something about hard work from those old chinee railroad boys

I don't recall praising Chinese workers . BUT if one is honest they are every bit as capable as todays average American employee.

not saying all American workers suck. but let's at least be honest and admit the majority today are awfully worthless and lazy. I would go so far as to say most millennials are not even worth minimum wage. and this is not just the millenials either. anyone who owns a business has most likely seen this reality when hiring.

 

[Azone]

"Kalifornia"


It makes me wonder what emphasis is put into California when it's spelled with K? Is California spelled with a K supposed to scare us scare us into thinking that we live in some Soviet era satellite state? Could we be imprisoned by the government just for having an idea or thought in this California spelled with a K that does not align with the states view? Could California with a K secretly cause cancer? After all everything in California with a C causes cancer and birth defects. Would "Kalifornia" be the first to outlaw the NRA completely? Such a move would then set precedent to eliminate free speech and start the forming of a police state. Oh my!
This Kalifornia place sounds awful, it sounds twisted!
At least I can rest easy now knowing that if NRA members are arrested and tried on domestic terrorism charges in this place called San Francisco they will no longer be a convicted felon, but a "justice involved person". The more I think of it I'm really missing the old California with a C. But the new California or Kalifornia, whatever we want to call it, is definitely not what she or he or it use to be.

 

[kiddogy]

I think it's awfull and for sure twisted ,regardless of how it's spelled.

 

[Desk Jockey]

What you describe sounds like a cancer spreading

Viral perhaps.

Look, I am not opposed to any particular political bias. I tend to fall center right on most issues. The left, particularly the hard core left, concerns me because of their stance on guns and hunting. The right concerns me because of land use issues. When it comes to hunting, as has been said by others, I don’t find perfect alignment with either side.

My key point is that Californication of political views is a real thing. Take Montana for instance. Democratic governor but mostly Republican state legislatures and mostly republican congressmen for some time. 100k people in Missoula. 50k in Billings. 35k in Bozeman. How many wealthy, left leaning, politically active California immigrants would it take cause politics to tilt against hunting and guns.

 

[amassi]

i lived in California for a few years. Still go back often. It has a lot going for it in terms of outdoor recreation. Can’t beat the combination of weather, ocean and mountain access anywhere in the US IMO. I did t hunt when I was there but Hunting is a bit of a mixed bag from what I gather. Better up north and in the rural areas.

Politics are another matter. Dominated by urban / suburban, heavily liberal sensibilities of LA/SF/SD. Pay attention to there politics even if you don’t live there. Agriculture products aren’t their only exports. CA is a test track for liberal political ideologies, strategies and mostly importantly tactics. It isn’t limited to simply exporting the concepts. As Californians decamp their state and diffuse through the West they bring their ideologies and activism. I have seen “migration” stats suggest 50k Californians are moving to Nevada each year and 30k to Colorado. Not sure about the Montana numbers but I bet it doesn’t take a lot of politically active Californians to start to make noise in your major cities given their populations are 30-100k. Granted some of that movement is offset by some movement into California on a net basis but you are swapping “natives” that may possess a generally more conservative political basis for “immigrants” that may have a generally more liberal bias. Overtime, that will start to shift the complexion your political landscape in more traditionally conservative states. You could find yourself in a similar situation in the west where the big cities take on a heavy liberal bias and that drives the whole states political agenda.

The flight of residents to nevada was a lot of retirees, Nevada doesnt tax their retirement as income and cost of living is about 50% cheaper.
Unfortunately, retirees also have the time and energy to attend council meetings and start rattling some cages.

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[Midwest.Bushlore]

"Kalifornia"


It makes me wonder what emphasis is put into California when it's spelled with K? Is California spelled with a K supposed to scare us scare us into thinking that we live in some Soviet era satellite state?

It's a dog whistle that the low information crowd uses to communicate with one another. Like calling black people "boy". When seen on a forum it's generally a sign that the person using it doesn't have anything to say worth reading.

 

[Dustin the wind]

Someone had to conflate the 'K' to a form of non existent subconscious online racism. Something that I have never witnessed in my travels through my many polluted political forum wasteland excursions. Not even on reddit. I live in and experience many people in supposedly racist Idaho by the way. OP, apparently I'm such a low information individual that I cannot navigate this thread of opinions properly. Straight from the San Francisco of Montana.

 

[Azone]

It's a dog whistle that the low information crowd uses to communicate with one another. Like calling black people "boy". When seen on a forum it's generally a sign that the person using it doesn't have anything to say worth reading.

Someone had to conflate the 'K' to a form of non existent subconscious online racism. Something that I have never witnessed in my travels through my many polluted political forum wasteland excursions. Not even on reddit. I live in and experience many people in supposedly racist Idaho by the way. OP, apparently I'm such a low information individual that I cannot navigate this thread of opinions properly. Straight from the San Francisco of Montana.

Fear mongering plain and simple. But damn it, we all clicked and read anyways. We all knew what inherent risks would come from such a title.

San Francisco is outta kontrol.

As far as trying to navigate a thread of personal opinions is concerned, usually sticking to ones moral compass will get them through it. Whether that's right or wrong.

 

[LookinforDirt]

It's a dog whistle that the low information crowd uses to communicate with one another. Like calling black people "boy". When seen on a forum it's generally a sign that the person using it doesn't have anything to say worth reading.

It’s a way to sum up what California politics represent. Communist and socialist leanings. But way to go left wing extreme and equate it to something racist. The, what is now, age old liberal tactic. Disagree with me on anything and I’ll label you racist. Racist, misogynist, homophobe etc. I don’t buy vehicles of color in Texas, just white, because of the sun and heat. Doh! Racist!!