Is a 6.5 PRC enough? Do I need a 7mm?

[BigCountry49]

No it’s the one that thinks knockdown power, ft lbs of energy and large bullet diameter is what kills things.

If a bullets energy and size don’t kill animals, then what does?

 

[JackButler]

If a bullets energy and size don’t kill animals, then what does?

Bullet construction, and enough speed that the bullet performs correctly when an animal is struck by it in the vitals. It’s why a 77gr bullet at 1800fps will kill an elk, even though it falls well short of the 1500ftlbs of energy rule touted as gospel for so long. In fact, this .223 load has only about a third of that.

 

[BigCountry49]

Bullet construction, and enough speed that the bullet performs correctly when an animal is struck by it in the vitals. It’s why a 77gr bullet at 1800fps will kill an elk, even though it falls well short of the 1500ftlbs of energy rule touted as gospel for so long. In fact, this .223 load has only about a third of that.

Yea, I’m not stating the specific amount of energy required to kill different animals. But, in the end, it is literally energy from the bullet transferred to the animal that causes them to die. The debate is how much, and where the energy is dissipated.

 

[Castle Rock]

If a bullets energy and size don’t kill animals, then what does?

The size of the hole it makes

 

[BCDJR]

 

[TradLife406]

I don’t think being strongly opinionated and a bit obnoxious is a characteristic of any particular generation.


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[Bluefish]

Yea, I’m not stating the specific amount of energy required to kill different animals. But, in the end, it is literally energy from the bullet transferred to the animal that causes them to die. The debate is how much, and where the energy is dissipated.

Sure, energy transfer does create the wound, but I would guess that the actual energy required is well under 500ftlbs even for an elk sized animal.

 

[Diamondback]

Take the Blue Pill, follow the 270 Win holy grail of Jack O'Connor 60's era, Winbangers, and wake up in your bed to believe whatever you want.

Take the Red Pill, stay in 6.5 PRC Rokslide wonderland, to be shown how deep the rabbit hole goes towards higher BC value.

 

[JackButler]

Yea, I’m not stating the specific amount of energy required to kill different animals. But, in the end, it is literally energy from the bullet transferred to the animal that causes them to die. The debate is how much, and where the energy is dissipated.

Sure. I think the point is, with a modern properly constructed bullet, the amount is low enough that a 300wm is not needed. In fact a 223 will do the job fine out to 500 yards. If a guy wants to use more than that, or has the skills/need to extend that range significantly, then by all means he should go with a big magnum.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Someone mentioned the Hornady and I thought about a video in which they are mentioned. Jim Shockley guided Jason and Steve Hornady on a bear hunt and during that time Jim said he learned a lot. Jim mentions that when he was younger he thought a .270 was good for moose. Now his mind is changed. The video is called BEST CALIBERS FOR MOOSE HUNTING.

Learned “a lot” from one or two bear kills? Interesting.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Learned “a lot” from one or two bear kills? Interesting.

Have you considered wearing a bandana to give your opinions more weight?

 

[BigCountry49]

Sure. I think the point is, with a modern properly constructed bullet, the amount is low enough that a 300wm is not needed. In fact a 223 will do the job fine out to 500 yards. If a guy wants to use more than that, or has the skills/need to extend that range significantly, then by all means he should go with a big magnum.

Have you shot elk sized game close to 500 yards with a .223? I’m genuinely curious.

 

[BCDJR]

Learned “a lot” from one or two bear kills? Interesting.

Watch the video…he learned a lot from the Hornady’s. Dont assume

 

[Quandary]

Fudds come in all ages, sadly.


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Happily you at least recognize that this having different POVs and being unwilling to listen to different POVs isn't an age thing. But whats with the name calling? Does that make you feel like a big man? Perhaps superior? Perhaps you are so woefully unsuccesful in all other aspects of your life you need to lash out? What is it? Maybe we can help you work through your issues.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Have you considered wearing a bandana to give your opinions more weight?

Probably not a bad idea. I started balding at like 22.

 

[JackButler]

Have you shot elk sized game close to 500 yards with a .223? I’m genuinely curious.

275 is the longest personally. Worked as expected. Plenty of photographed evidence on this website of folks doing it well beyond that.