Idaho Fish and Game considering restricting the use of trail cameras

[Grundy53]

Is it FAIR chase? I say no. MT already has this restriction. That's one of our tenants of hunting in North America.

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What makes it not fair chase?

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[Hall256]

For those that have commented it's there hobby, what are your thoughts on people who have drones as a hobby...should they be able to fly their drone during hunting season?

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[Grundy53]

For those that have commented it's there hobby, what are your thoughts on people who have drones as a hobby...should they be able to fly their drone during hunting season?

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Apple's and oranges. Drones are mobile, live feed, and give you a view you can't get yourself.

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[Grundy53]

For those that want to ban trail cams, have you ever even ran any? If you have has it directly caused you to kill a game animal?

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[Hall256]

For those that want to ban trail cams, have you ever even ran any? If you have has it directly caused you to kill a game animal?

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Yes, I have ran them for the last three seasons and they help me pattern the deer on the property I hunted in NC. So I get the hobby aspect of it, I know how fun it can be, but I also know how overboard people get with them and how quickly the debate turns in to when you should or should not check them, or if they give you claim over an area.

On side note, as I prepare to move I have several trail cameras for sale....so for the trail cams fans on here if you want any extra ones at a good price send me a PM.

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[Grundy53]

Yes, I have ran them for the last three seasons and they help me pattern the deer on the property I hunted in NC. So I get the hobby aspect of it, I know how fun it can be, but I also know how overboard people get with them and how quickly the debate turns in to when you should or should not check them, or if they give you claim over an area.

On side note, as I prepare to move I have several trail cameras for sale....so for the trail cams fans on here if you want any extra ones at a good price send me a PM.

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Then I will reiterate, what makes them not fair chase?

Also, Idaho is a bit different than NC. Definitely a lot more room to spread out.

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[N2TRKYS]

You also don't have to "stink up" an area by placing cameras in the first place. Trail cams are such a prevalent thing on the East coast due to the thickness of terrain, and the amount of private land hunting...i would hate to see this trend explode out west...especially on public land.

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Wouldn't be any more of an issue out west than on public land here.

 

[Hall256]

Then I will reiterate, what makes them not fair chase?

Also, Idaho is a bit different than NC. Definitely a lot more room to spread out.

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Oh i don't know having what amounts to photo/video surveillance of an area strikes me as tipping the scales away from the idea of "fair" chase.

Also, I agree with you claim ID is different than NC...that is why you do not need trail cams.

Again, not knocking the hobby aspect...just don't think they have a place on public land. Spend the time scouting, glassing and hunting.

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[Grundy53]

You also don't have to "stink up" an area by placing cameras in the first place. Trail cams are such a prevalent thing on the East coast due to the thickness of terrain, and the amount of private land hunting...i would hate to see this trend explode out west...especially on public land.

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You've obviously not been to the Idaho panhandle. It's about as thick as you can get.

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[Grundy53]

Oh i don't know having what amounts to photo/video surveillance of an area strikes me as tipping the scales away from the idea of "fair" chase.

Also, I agree with you claim ID is different than NC...that is why you do not need trail cams.

Again, not knocking the hobby aspect...just don't think they have a place on public land. Spend the time scouting, glassing and hunting.

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I definitely spend time glassing, scouting, and hunting. Trail cams are just another tool for scouting.

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[Hall256]

You've obviously not been to the Idaho panhandle. It's about as thick as you can get.

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Umm...yes I have. The only reason I'm on the East coast is that I'm in the Marines and I'm stationed out here.

Glad you spend time scouting, really could careless if you use trail cams to help (again i get the fun aspect of the hobby, I just don't think you can say it is fair chase).

My thing original objection to them is there use on Public land. If it was put to a vote I would vote for their ban on public land, or at least during hunting season.

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[Grundy53]

Umm...yes I have. The only reason I'm on the East coast is that I'm in the Marines and I'm stationed out here.

Glad you spend time scouting, really could careless if you use trail cams to help (again i get the fun aspect of the hobby, I just don't think you can say it is fair chase).

My thing original objection to them is there use on Public land. If it was put to a vote I would vote for their ban on public land, or at least during hunting season.

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Thank you for your service. I truly appreciate it.

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[Hall256]

Thank you for your service. I truly appreciate it.

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Thank you...it is a pleasure, i truly do love my job. Currently I am at 19 years of service and if my body hold up and my wife allows (she is sick of the deployments) I am hoping to due a few more tours and retire up to either the Idaho or Montana with the rest of my family.

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[Arbutusbucks]

I was in Idaho with my wife camping this past week in an area I had elk hunted in the past. There was a drone flying around the canyon we were in, which I believe are illegal for hunting purposes. We were about 3 miles from the trailhead about half way up the one side of the canyon to glass for some elk. It really ruined the solitude. I don't know that they were scouting but I can see why you'd want to limit any technology including trail cameras.

 

[Grundy53]

I was in Idaho with my wife camping this past week in an area I had elk hunted in the past. There was a drone flying around the canyon we were in, which I believe are illegal for hunting purposes. We were about 3 miles from the trailhead about half way up the one side of the canyon to glass for some elk. It really ruined the solitude. I don't know that they were scouting but I can see why you'd want to limit any technology including trail cameras.

Did you see any trail cameras?

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[jeremy.b]

Good debate folks! I have my reasons for favoring trail cam use (lack of time due to family commitments to scout as well I as I would like, wanting to limit impact to an area and the additional motivation to get out there when you're more familiar with the animals you are pursuing). However, I'm glad to see, enjoy and respect the counter arguments as well. Keep it going!

 

[Huntindog45]

my biggest problem with the whole camera thing, and tree stands too is we see this sense of "I put my camera and stand here so no one else is welcome" I was reading a post on some site earlier...may have been here. where a guy was just all kinds of pissed that someone else hunted near "his area" on puplic land as if everyone should simple stop using it because in his mind his cameras and stands were up. never mind the fact that there were probably several people very familiar with the area that didnt need to bother with the technology, or the stands. Any time we add man made features within public land it just feels crappy to me. I dont like seeing a camera on a tree any more than I like seeing a beer can left in the woods. Just the way I feel.

 

[mfllood3800]

No doubt technology needs to be regulated.
Idaho likes the primitive weapons approach
I say let them Do what they want in their state, if out of staters don't like it, they can go else where

If residents oppose it let them speak up

It really comes down to conservation of the species

If they can't regulate a species cause of technology advancements that's one thing. Issue less tags or eliminate technology

If they are doing it to keep primitive hunting ethics alive, so be it

I Scout with cameras, 3

I know guys that run dozens

I also hunted decades without

We will all survive one way or another

If the economy drops and wildlife increases i suspect there will be a change


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[Arbutusbucks]

Did you see any trail cameras?

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No I did not, we stayed on trails for the most part so not really camera territory.

 

[robby denning]

This is a good discussion and I will comply with whatever Idaho, and I mean citizens and F&G, decide. As it was said, we hunted without them for years.

For those that might have missed it, we are actually testing the wireless stealth cams right now on a live thread here. Follow along here to make your mind up for yourself:

http://www.rokslide.com/forums/trai...-project-ryan-robby-sponsored-black-ovis.html