Seeking Best Idaho Fish and Game Attorney

intunegp

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This whole thread brought back memories to when I was a police officer.

I pulled over a sovereign citizen with no license, no plates, and no insurance.

I towed his vehicle and he later reported it stolen…listing me as the suspect.

I saw a video the other day of a sovereign citizen who found himself in court. He claimed that he was not the person John Smith, but the representative of the person John Smith, who also happened to answer to the name John Smith, and thus he could not be guilty of what the person John Smith was being accused of.
 

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This brings up an interesting point. It is extremely difficult to get popped on residency violations unless you try to claim residency with multiple state F&G depts in the same year or are consistently bouncing residency from one state to another every year or two.

Nope, not that difficult. Obviously easier when it’s multiple states, but not difficult when it’s only one. You still have to meet the residency requirements of the state you purchase your licenses, if not- ask the OP
 

IdahoBeav

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Nope, not that difficult. Obviously easier when it’s multiple states, but not difficult when it’s only one. You still have to meet the residency requirements of the state you purchase your licenses, if not- ask the OP
OP essentially signed himself up for the violation.

The common experience is you show a DL, a piece of mail that was sent to you, and state the date that you moved to the state. I never even went to IDFG when I did it. I did it at Cabela's.
 

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Nope, not that difficult. Obviously easier when it’s multiple states, but not difficult when it’s only one. You still have to meet the residency requirements of the state you purchase your licenses, if not- ask the OP
Curious, how often did you guys deal with people claiming to be a resident even when they werent?
 

mtwarden

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Curious, how often did you guys deal with people claiming to be a resident even when they werent?

A ton! I mean a ton.

Some just dropped in your lap while out patrolling, but most were done purposely searching them out. In Montana we cross reference our license data base with the Department of Revenue (amongst many others). If you bought a resident license and didn’t file income tax your name popped up. Sometimes it was a legitimate resident who should be paying taxes or sometimes a nonresident who shouldn’t be buying resident licenses.

Anyone can buy a resident hunting license by showing a Montana drivers license, the catch is you affirm my signing that you meet all the requirements. If you don’t, there is a very high chance of getting caught. The fines are high and go higher if you happened to harvest something, that harvest is unlawful and things can add up in a hurry.

Bottom line, too easy to get caught and the price of getting caught is too high.
 

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A ton! I mean a ton.

Some just dropped in your lap while out patrolling, but most were done purposely searching them out. In Montana we cross reference our license data base with the Department of Revenue (amongst many others). If you bought a resident license and didn’t file income tax your name popped up. Sometimes it was a legitimate resident who should be paying taxes or sometimes a nonresident who shouldn’t be buying resident licenses.

Anyone can buy a resident hunting license by showing a Montana drivers license, the catch is you affirm my signing that you meet all the requirements. If you don’t, there is a very high chance of getting caught. The fines are high and go higher if you happened to harvest something, that harvest is unlawful and things can add up in a hurry.

Bottom line, too easy to get caught and the price of getting caught is too high.
Interesting.

Did you guys ever report someone to the department of revenue?
 

Swamp Fox

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It's all starting to make sense now. Martime law....wilderness land piracy....SxS swashbuckling...

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Well this has turned into an interesting thread. It starts with, "I'm a resident that didn't live in my new state of residence" and ends up..."I'm just asking a question I'm not arguing" while arguing. And then namecalling someone AOC while still trying to pretend to just have intelligent debate. We totally have some gas lighting here. This dude's wife or girlfriend must be a wreck. "Baby I didn't say I cheated. I'm just saying it wouldn't be cheating if I was in another area code but I didn't say I cheated".
*was in another area code yesterday.

Oh wait, maybe he is the homeschooled kid of the OP!!
 

csp20108

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It probably bears mentioning that you can't "reopen" a criminal case any time you feel like. You get one shot at an acquittal in a trial court and usually an appeal if you file it within the allowed timeline. If you lose both, the judgment is generally final outside of a few very specific circumstances that might get you a second appeal. However, once you knowingly plead guilty, your case is over forever no matter how singled out you feel, how unfair you think the process was, or how sure you are that the prosecutor or the law is wrong.
 

el_jefe_pescado

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You did not domicile in Idaho if neither you nor your family resided permanently in Idaho at that time irregardless of how many times you visited. While you were prepared to spend the time you needed to become a resident, you physically did not meet the requirements to be a resident of either state.
^this. believe it or not it is possible to exist in "no man's land" when it comes to residency.
 

IDVortex

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Oh the op is now only a guest. That's depressing. I was hoping to find out how fighting the law would work for him.
 

The Guide

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Oh the op is now only a guest. That's depressing. I was hoping to find out how fighting the law would work for him.
I'm surprised he stayed as long as he did. I'm still wondering what happened with the guy who couldn't hit a sign in the desert at 50 yards with his 7mm Magnum and was sure it was a seating depth issue...

Jay
 
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