Hunting "influencers" and game violations

[mt terry d]

Since it's illegal (in most states I think) to sell game parts/meat/gall bladders, etc. how about
not allowing videos of hunting requiring a game license to be monetized?
Not that posting videos of one's hunt or kills on youtube would be a violation but if you
have a channel and receive monetary gain from it then you can't post videos of the hunt.
I suspect many of the more popular youtube hunters spend many thousands of $$$ in application
fees, buyings points, etc (that are deductible for tax purposes) and further lessen the drawing
odds for Joe Schmoe.
That could also lessen ( maybe even eliminate? ) the temptation of breaking game laws in order to produce "content".

What would be the downsides of something on this order?

Crazy idea?

 

[TheTone]

There is no downside; the world needs more ditch diggers and less wildlife pimps

 

[Caseknife]

Whole heartedly agree. There should be increased mandatory fines for those influencers if found guilty due to the fact that they are monetarily benefitting from "the peoples" wildlife. Kind of on the same line as higher fines for "trophy" size animals that are poached.

 

[Huntinmechanic]

I agree. Money can distort the morals of any man. A few military/special ops guys have fallen into the same trap of fame, glory and money via the influencer sphere. Tim Kennedy and John McPhee are a couple obvious ones. I'm grateful that they fought for my rights and freedom, but the embellishments and proven falsehoods tarnish their legacies. I've never sought fame or the spotlight, but I imagine those desires are hard to resist for many. There's some great advice about money in the book of Timothy. One doesn't need to be a Christian to pull value from the writings. It's applicable to everyday life.

 

[grfox92]

I think taking a perfectly legal activity and making it illegal to film and produce content is a wildly un American idea.

I dont like the hunting influenecers. I dont watch their content. But we have a thread on here highlighting exactly what this rule would be looking to help change, and there are, I believe 3 names on it.....3 people who have poached for likes and are still active in the industry. It doesnt seem like its enough of a problem to warrant a law.

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[D_wit22]

I think taking a perfectly legal activity and making it illegal to film and produce content is a wildly un American idea.

I dont like the hunting influenecers. I dont watch their content. But we have a thread on here highlighting exactly what this rule would be looking to help change, and there are, I believe 3 names on it.....3 people who have poached for likes and are still active in the industry. It doesnt seem like its enough of a problem to warrant a law.

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I agree.
I may be old school but I believe in the next 5-10 years we will see the “influencers” die off. There is only so much hunting related content you can put out before it becomes average. I see it in a local group where I live. They have all started working “real” jobs again because their dream of making it big in the YouTube world isn’t working out. I still think we will see content posted, but more like “1 hit wonders” instead of career hunters.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

I think taking a perfectly legal activity and making it illegal to film and produce content is a wildly un American idea.

THIS

You folks need to slow your roll on this whole subject. Because they produce content, it’s easy for game cops to zero in on them. And so they get caught. Good! End of story, really.

The fact that folks want to swing the other way and limit freedoms is ridiculous to me.

 

[Unknown]

Can’t be bothered with so called influencers, never watched, never will. If they are violating laws I would think those, that for lack of a better word “ worshippers” will quit supporting them.

If they break the law bring the hammer down.

 

[BLJ]

monetarily benefitting from "the peoples" wildlife.

Wouldn’t this also shut down a lot of guided hunts on public land?

 

[rookieforever33]

Since hunters are responsible for 100 percent of poaching cases maybe we should outlaw hunting. Maybe if we keep making laws to satisfy everyones ideals we can become a utopia where everything is perfect.




SARCASM

 

[gman82001]

They’re not “influencers” they are “winners”

The comment I got when I said this exact thing to Brian Calls weird ass I sleep with my wife video or whatever the hell that thing was

 

[Boarmaster]

Since it's illegal (in most states I think) to sell game parts/meat/gall bladders, etc. how about
not allowing videos of hunting requiring a game license to be monetized?
Not that posting videos of one's hunt or kills on youtube would be a violation but if you
have a channel and receive monetary gain from it then you can't post videos of the hunt.
I suspect many of the more popular youtube hunters spend many thousands of $$$ in application
fees, buyings points, etc (that are deductible for tax purposes) and further lessen the drawing
odds for Joe Schmoe.
That could also lessen ( maybe even eliminate? ) the temptation of breaking game laws in order to produce "content".

What would be the downsides of something on this order?

Crazy idea?

Yes crazy. Way too far in my opinion. Where does that making money on hunting and fishing stop? Guides or hunting equipment companies? Clothing companies? A few people in a segment of a huge industry break the law and suddenly you think we should just ban it. The answer is very easy. If someone breaks the law you prosecute them just lime in any other industry. Forums do a good job of publicizing these prosecutions and those law breakers will get whats coming to them.

 

[OXN939]

They’re not “influencers” they are “winners”

The comment I got when I said this exact thing to Brian Calls weird ass I sleep with my wife video or whatever the hell that thing was

Yeah Call is a real winner



Initially I tended to agree with the perspective that restrictions like this would be government overreach... but man, it is just a chore to find one of these influencers that is not a POS. The narcissistic urge for attention for strangers through social media really is a cancer.

They may be a tiny percentage of the community, but their antics are most of what the average person knows about hunting.

 

[Nickofthewoods]

Wouldn’t this also shut down a lot of guided hunts on public land?

The biggest difference I see is that legitimate outfitters are governed by fairly strict regulations by both land managing agencies and state wildlife agencies. Influencers not so much. They make money on the fringes of public land and wildlife management laws, often breaking these laws along the way for some type of personal gain and to the detriment of the wildlife and other hunters.

 

[BLJ]

The biggest difference I see is that legitimate outfitters are governed by fairly strict regulations by both land managing agencies and state wildlife agencies. Influencers not so much. They make money on the fringes of public land and wildlife management laws, often breaking these laws along the way for some type of personal gain and to the detriment of the wildlife and other hunters.

That’s a fair point. Thanks.

 

[Brian243]

THIS

You folks need to slow your roll on this whole subject. Because they produce content, it’s easy for game cops to zero in on them. And so they get caught. Good! End of story, really.

The fact that folks want to swing the other way and limit freedoms is ridiculous to me.

100% agree.

Honestly, I enjoy watching the content of the hunts and picking up different things from different groups. As a flatland east Texas guy who plans to hit the elk woods next year I enjoy seeing what I may need.


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[Bugger]

I’d lean more towards requiring specific limited “media” tags for anyone intending to film/promote a public land hunt. Added expense and added scrutiny to go with it.
Banning it altogether alongside porn and gore is a bad look.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’d lean more towards requiring specific limited “media” tags for anyone intending to film/promote a public land hunt. Added expense and added scrutiny to go with it.

Barriers to entry only benefit those already entrenched. This is a bad idea.

If you don’t like “influencers”, then don’t listen to them. Many of you sound like Howard Stern haters who “only listened to his show to hear what he would say next.” Or morality types who wanted to ban pornography so that they wouldn’t be tempted to view it.


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[RyanT26]

I think their workaround would be to still make money off advertising/product placement.
But I like where you’re going.

 

[Billy Goat]

I think we just need inspectors who check up on these film permits.

Random inspection type, just so they get to have the headaches so many of the rest of us enjoy.