Hunt Quietly - Matt Rinella's new website and podcast

[Desk Jockey]

With all due respect, I disagree and I point to some of the successes that Howl for Wildlife @luckyluciano2 has already had at the legislative level. I realize that’s not quite “the ballot box“ but they’re stopping or hindering many of these anti-hunting movements before they make it to the ballot box. In my opinion numbers completely matter.

Preach it, brother. I Was using “ballot box“ to mean political influence broadly.

Also…news flash, you don’t have to be a majority to make political things happen in this country. A little lobbying, a little money, a few calls and letters to politicians can all move the needle. More hunters = more of all that influence.

 

[ODB]

Preach it, brother. I Was using “ballot box“ to mean political influence broadly.

Also…news flash, you don’t have to be a majority to make political things happen in this country. A little lobbying, a little money, a few calls and letters to politicians can all move the needle. More hunters = more of all that influence.

Correct. Fewer than 5% of this country can get damn near every major corporation, government, hospital system, etc an ugly-ass flag over them for a month.

Talk about disproportionate power.

 

[ddd-shooter]

With all due respect, I disagree and I point to some of the successes that Howl for Wildlife @luckyluciano2 has already had at the legislative level. I realize that’s not quite “the ballot box“ but they’re stopping or hindering many of these anti-hunting movements before they make it to the ballot box. In my opinion numbers completely matter.

I can see the hope in that. But is this a matter of just being more active with the numbers we have? Are you good with twice as much pressure on habitats?
Also, I think we're missing the point. We can mentor people and grow the sport without social media and especially without commercialization.

 

[KurtR]

I can see the hope in that. But is this a matter of just being more active with the numbers we have? Are you good with twice as much pressure on habitats?
Also, I think we're missing the point. We can mentor people and grow the sport without social media and especially without commercialization.

How do you figure twice as much pressure?

 

[ddd-shooter]

How do you figure twice as much pressure?

All the game that's not limited tags.

 

[robby denning]

I can see the hope in that. But is this a matter of just being more active with the numbers we have? Are you good with twice as much pressure on habitats?
Also, I think we're missing the point. We can mentor people and grow the sport without social media and especially without commercialization. I don't think we'll double hunter numbers, I just don't want to halve them.

Yes, be more active with the numbers we have and that is what HOWL is doing.

Can't say on the habitat question because some places can handle more, some need less, so smart management is still needed at all levels of hunters.

But the question of growing people without social media, that is where our next generation is. I don't think we're going to reach many without it. Not many fathers taking kids hunting like 20 years ago.

 

[Bighorner]

I really feel like there is value in what he talks about. I thought the one with the outfitter was kind of an eye opener for me.

I really think all the guys talking about how to get tags should also talk about how to close gates.

 

[KurtR]

All the game that's not limited tags.

Other than Colorado who has unlimited otc tags

 

[ddd-shooter]

Other than Colorado who has unlimited otc tags

Every state east of the there nearly, lol
If we had less hunters, there’d be more unlimited tags…

 

[ddd-shooter]

Yes, be more active with the numbers we have and that is what HOWL is doing.

Can't say on the habitat question because some places can handle more, some need less, so smart management is still needed at all levels of hunters.

But the question of growing people without social media, that is where our next generation is. I don't think we're going to reach many without it. Not many fathers taking kids hunting like 20 years ago.

Which brings us to Matt’s point: what kinda crap are we putting on social media? Why are people who make money for views and sponsorships driving our social media presence?

Personally, I’ve introduced many to our sport and never used social media. They are also successful ethical hunters who think about conservation. I doubt I could do that with insta.

 

[robby denning]

Which brings us to Matt’s point: what kinda crap are we putting on social media? Why are people who make money for views and sponsorships driving our social media presence?

Personally, I’ve introduced many to our sport and never used social media…

SM can be terrible and good and Matt has some valid points on the downsides. However it’s not going away so figuring out how to improve our image in it is the best route.

…And good on you for recruiting those new hunters

 

[KurtR]

Every state east of the there nearly, lol
If we had less hunters, there’d be more unlimited tags…

That’s just completely false but you keep talking about that boogie man.

 

[mossyoak52]

That’s just completely false but you keep talking about that boogie man.

99% of the pressure in most states are caused by RESIDENTS of the state but its easier to blame the lack of game on outsiders
And yes most states east of colorado are unlimited otc most states in general are unlimited otc how many states LIMIT RESIDENT general tags ?

 

[KurtR]

99% of the pressure in most states are caused by RESIDENTS of the state but its easier to blame the lack of game on outsiders
And yes most states east of colorado are unlimited otc most states in general are unlimited otc how many states LIMIT RESIDENT general tags ?

South Dakota and North Dakota both do.

 

[mossyoak52]

Hence why i said MOST never said ALL

 

[Bighorner]

99% of the pressure in most states are caused by RESIDENTS of the state but its easier to blame the lack of game on outsiders
And yes most states east of colorado are unlimited otc most states in general are unlimited otc how many states LIMIT RESIDENT general tags ?

B.S. WY elk area had 20% NR, but NR accounted for 34% of the hunter days. You need to check your facts amigo.

 

[mossyoak52]

B.S. WY elk area had 20% NR, but NR accounted for 34% of the hunter days. You need to check your facts amigo.

Does wyoming limit the number of RESISENT TAGS a genral tag area no thry dont so i dont need to check anyrhing
20% non residents that might hunt 1week vs 76% residents that hunt it everyday for the entre seaon i suggest you check your facts and do the math amigo resident hunters cause more pressure then non residents i dont care how you want to twist it

 

[Bighorner]

Does wyoming limit the number of RESISENT TAGS a genral tag area no thry dont so i dont need to check anyrhing
20% non residents that might hunt 1week vs 76% residents that hunt it everyday for the entre seaon i suggest you check your facts and do the math amigo resident hunters cause more pressure then non residents i dont care howcyoy want to twist it

"99% of the pressure in most states are caused by RESIDENTS"

Sir, with all do respect my numbers are straight from the game and fish site. So you do need to check something. Amigo.

 

[mossyoak52]

"99% of the pressure in most states are caused by RESIDENTS"

Sir, with all do respect my numbers are straight from the game and fish site. So you do need to check something. Amigo

Its still residents putting more preasure on the game then non residents

 

[Bighorner]

Its still residents putting more preasure on the game then non residents

That's a more reasonable statement.
1% of hunter days and 34% of hunter days are very different. But you are correct residents do have more hunter days.

Another fun fact is overall NR are around 10% more successful than residents