Hoyt launched their 2017 bows

[Desk Jockey]

Drool...

 

[Desk Jockey]

Liking the non turbo pro defiant 34. Looks like the replacement for the Nitrum I should have bought instead of my spider turbo. If anyone gets a chance to shoot them, please share.

 

[fiskeri1]

As far as their hunting line-up, not much was changed. Nothing new with the carbon bows and I'm honestly puzzled with the aluminum Defiants. I would expect that the "Pro" model is a refinement of what was released a year ago. I'm curious to shoot them and see if my issues with them have been addressed. However, if this is the case then why is the standard Defiant line still present?

I love Hoyt (have two of them) but last year's release seems to have been a setback for them and I'm skeptical that this will correct the slide. Someone on AT is quoting a serious drop in sales over the last year and from what I've seen in this neck of the woods I am inclined to believe it.

 

[dreamingbig]

They changed the riser. I haven't shot one yet.


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[theleo91386]

They got fatter. I'm having a hard time figuring out why dealers would order a bunch of "Pro" models to have on hand when the only difference over last years is they made it 3 ounces heavier. Maybe they're trying to go after the Mathews shooter that want short and heavy bows?

 

[Trial153]

They have the ugly market cornered....horrible looking


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[jmez]

I think they have a new cam as well this year.

Honestly, what does everyone expect? Bow technology is pretty much at a standstill. There really isn't much left. The industry as a whole has painted themselves into a corner trying to have a grandiose release of new technology every year. They have built their industry around that marketing strategy and they have finally caught up with themselves. Contrast that with the firearms industry where a Remington 700 is still considered as good and accurate as ever. They still sell a ton of them every year.

You'll still have a contingent of fanboys that have already ordered the new bows without ever laying hands on them but that faction will continue to decline as the technology slows even more. The industry as a whole will continue to suffer.

 

[Beendare]

Sales down?
Could it be that they ran up against a price threshold with their TOL bows?

 

[jmez]

Since they are all privately held companies it is pretty hard to find out about "sales down." If you've spent more than 42 seconds on AT you should be well aware to take anything "reported" there with a grain of salt. Anyone live near the Hoyt factory? If they lost 60% of their sales last year they are laying people off.

 

[theleo91386]

I think they have a new cam as well this year.

Nope, same cam, same limbs, same performance, just about 3 ounces heavier than last years bows.

 

[Brendan]

Nope, same cam, same limbs, same performance, just about 3 ounces heavier than last years bows.

New 2.1 cam same as now available on the Hyperedge to address tuning issues. That's the rumor...

 

[TheTone]

I'm good with the looks of the new lineup, yeah its no huge change from last years but we mostly just see small evolutions in design from most companies and rarely the big revolution in design. I was planning to upgrade this year from my 2009 alphamax so for those of us that don't buy something ever year the little changes every year make a bigger difference. I'll probably end up with a carbon or pro defiant 34, already looking forward to it.

 

[Lawnboi]

I'm good with the looks of the new lineup, yeah its no huge change from last years but we mostly just see small evolutions in design from most companies and rarely the big revolution in design. I was planning to upgrade this year from my 2009 alphamax so for those of us that don't buy something ever year the little changes every year make a bigger difference. I'll probably end up with a carbon or pro defiant 34, already looking forward to it.

I too shot an alphamax till this year and ended up wih a carbon defiant. Like it a lot more than the alphamax. Shot a lot of Hoyt's other offerings from last years and could not say no to a carbon defiant. Give one a try, if you like the alphamax, you will really like thier carbon

I think the archery industry needs to stop creating bows every year that have no change. But guys keep spending money on them I guess. I kind of do want a carbon defiant 34 for 3d

 

[Stwrt9]

nothing to get excited about IMO, minor changes form what i can see.

 

[Pramo]

I loved Hoyt bows and still use my 2014 CST, but the new cams with special press requirements I can't understand. As someone who flys west to hunt I need to be able service a bow and want to use my bowmaster in a pinch. The idea that I can only press a bow at a Hoyt dealer or find one with adapters is crazy and all for a string angle problem I didn't know I had? Personally I think the Z5 cam was as good as it gets, I will not buy a Hoyt again until they come back to a bow that can be tuned and serviced.

As far as innovation and speed, bows peaked a few years ago and I used to buy one every year now its more like every 3-5 years. Locally I have seen a huge drop off in new Hoyts at 3D shoots but Mathews Halons are everywhere

 

[OR Archer]

They actually made quite a few changes on this bow. If you're not real familiar with them you might not notice them. First thing that is different is the preload on the limbs. The new 2017 has less preload. Second is the cam. New update 2.1 DFX cam. They also reduced the let off from 80% back to 75%. Also the size of the cam is slightly smaller(#2 cam anyways).

The bow shoots really nice. Good smooth draw and what seems to be a little more generous valley. Tunes up just fine as well. Overall I think this bow is going to do very well for Hoyt.

 

[Desk Jockey]

They have the ugly market cornered....horrible looking


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If looks mattered the deer would run away from me long before they saw my bow.

 

[Kotaman]

Nope, same cam, same limbs, same performance, just about 3 ounces heavier than last years bows.

To my knowledge, it is a new version of last years cam to address the tune issues of the #2 cam.

 

[jmez]

OR, did you see any of the tuning issues on last year's carbon bows that so many seemed to have?

 

[OR Archer]

Haven't received those yet. Honestly I didn't run into much of the tuning issues others claim to of had with the 2016. Had one Hyper Edge #3 with an issue but that's it. All others I set up tuned fine. Required a few changes to how I set them up compared to past years though.