How to end NR Wyoming wilderness ban?

[Archer86]

 

[3325]

I don’t disagree with your points regarding the quality of hunting in the wilderness. But good hunting or not, it’s the principle of the issue that rightfully bothers us. Federal land belonging to all Americans should not be off limits to legal hunters based solely on them not being a WY resident. That’s not right.

As a WY resident, I’d say the exact thing about any other state if they had this rule.

I don’t disagree about fairness. I consider it unfair and unnecessary. But let me play devil’s advocate.

I’m not a Wyoming outfitter, although I worked for two of them in my youth. If I was a Wyoming outfitter and someone made a legal challenge basing their argument on federal land use, I’d counter by proposing a state law requiring non-residents to be accompanied by a Wyoming resident to harvest Wyoming’s game anywhere within the Wyoming borders - federal land, state land, private land.

Now, go forth and use your federal land, Mr Non-resident. Go in hunting season, wear orange, and carry a rifle if you want. But don’t get caught harvesting Wyoming’s game on your federal land without being accompanied by a Wyoming resident.

Think such a law would get through the state legislature? As I said, pick your battles wisely.

 

[StupidLightweight]

Yes, going full Canada would make more sense than only excluding NR hunters from federal wilderness they own.

Would it pass the state legislature? Not likely. Too much money would be lost.

 

[LFC911]

I’m going to hunt the wilderness with a WY NR friend next year. Go meet some people if the wilderness areas are that crucial.

I know this has been said several times and think it is the best option. I'm sure there are a few WY Res solo hunters wish they had a caller or someone to help pack out their BOAL.

 

[Lawnboi]

Wyoming res need to work on their meme game.

 

[3325]

Wyoming res need to work on their meme game.

I’m 58. What’s a meme?

 

[Archer86]

Wyoming res need to work on their meme game.

We are to busy hunting the wilderness to work on memes much

 

[Bubblehide]

I’m 58. What’s a meme?

A meme is a person that believes the world revolves around them. It's properly pronounced "me, me".

 

[WhatToHunt]

A meme is a person that believes the world revolves around them. It's properly pronounced "me, me".

When memes were new, or at last new to me, I legit didn't know how to pronounce it and said it like "me-me". And as a fan of the hit 90s sitcom The Drew Carey Show, naturally what then came to mind was...



Now carry on with the wilderness stuff.

 

[ZackBarnes]

Thanks

 

[cnelk]

I just spent two weeks at my place in Wyo, and Im catching up on Rokslide threads and it took me a pot of coffee to read thru this thread... entertaining for sure.

Here's what I do know:

In Colorado, there are Moose Units are Resident Only.

NonRes can hunt deer, antelope, elk, small game, fish, hike and anything else in these units, just not hunt moose.

In these moose units there are BLM lands, State Lands, Federal Lands and even..... Wilderness Areas.

I have never heard of one complaint about this.
Not one. Ever.

 

[MuleyFever]

Utah has some hunts that are resident only as well.

 

[ThorM465]

I just spent two weeks at my place in Wyo, and Im catching up on Rokslide threads and it took me a pot of coffee to read thru this thread... entertaining for sure.

Here's what I do know:

In Colorado, there are Moose Units are Resident Only.

NonRes can hunt deer, antelope, elk, small game, fish, hike and anything else in these units, just not hunt moose.

In these moose units there are BLM lands, State Lands, Federal Lands and even..... Wilderness Areas.

I have never heard of one complaint about this.
Not one. Ever.

Well here's your first complaint. State's have no right to discriminate against different Americans on federal lands. In fairness I'd accept this discrimination to some degree. However, these states have taken it to the extreme in some cases and as such has made it abundantly apparent that their is a need for nonresident representation. What we have now is essentially taxation without representation.

 

[wytx]

Another way to get read of the NR wilderness rule would be for NR help us Residents get 95/5/5 tag split witch means 95 percent of all big game tags go to Residents 5 percent go to NR and 5 percent to Guides and Outfitters...

No, no no. No tags to outfitters.

 

[MTtrout]

In Colorado, there are Moose Units are Resident Only.

I have never heard of one complaint about this.
Not one. Ever.

It is not uncommon for states to have resident only tags for OIL species with very low population densities. It’s a matter of what percent of tags go to res vs non-res when only a few tags are issued. Maybe this is the case in CO too?

Either way I see no comparison between res only moose hunts vs not allowing non res to hunt deer and elk herds in wilderness areas in WY

 

[wytx]

That pesky SCOTUS ruling and law, wonder when it all will change ??

 

[cnelk]

Either way I see no comparison between res only moose hunts vs not allowing non res to hunt deer and elk herds in wilderness areas in WY

Isnt this thread about not allowing NonRes in to certain areas?

 

[Sccritterkiller]

Another way to get read of the NR wilderness rule would be for NR help us Residents get 95/5/5 tag split witch means 95 percent of all big game tags go to Residents 5 percent go to NR and 5 percent to Guides and Outfitters...

Residents wouldn't vote for tag increase to cover the tag cost loat in 95/5/5 split..thats why it remains the way it is...70% of F&G budget come from NR tag sales..so R gen elk tag would have to go at least 5x to bring in the same amount rev., maybe more.

 

[Dos Perros]

I just spent two weeks at my place in Wyo, and Im catching up on Rokslide threads and it took me a pot of coffee to read thru this thread... entertaining for sure.

Here's what I do know:

In Colorado, there are Moose Units are Resident Only.

NonRes can hunt deer, antelope, elk, small game, fish, hike and anything else in these units, just not hunt moose.

In these moose units there are BLM lands, State Lands, Federal Lands and even..... Wilderness Areas.

I have never heard of one complaint about this.
Not one. Ever.

Are you equating the two situations?

 

[wyogoat]

Wyoming res need to work on their meme game.

Whoa. Too far. You didn’t read the entire thread. There were some zingers in there.