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I thought the Leupold "best warranty you'll never need" ad was great. I've never owned one, and don't doubt there's those that do hold zero through drops, but I have seen so many warranty reports from guys on here saying that Leupold said it was fixed etc and they got it back and it still didn't work!
 
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Wicked thanks!

I thought the Leupold "best warranty you'll never need" ad was great. I've never owned one, and don't doubt there's those that do hold zero through drops, but I have seen so many warranty reports from guys on here saying that Leupold said it was fixed etc and they got it back and it still didn't work!
Probably worked fine at the factory after being repaired, but after going through the "Postal Service Drop-Test" they just failed again! LOL
 
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If I recall correctly, I believe Frank Glaser was a proponent of smaller calibers as well. He used them a lot on Grizzley's Moose and Sheep. I seem to remember him saying rifle caliber is less important than marksmanship and he killed a pile of animals with a bunch of calibers as a market hunter for awhile. "Alaska's Wolf Man: The 1915-1955 Wilderness Adventures of Frank Glaser" by Jim Rearden is well worth the read regardless of the caliber discussion.

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GREAT read! It’s packed with the wildest outdoor adventures you’ll find.
 

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Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!


what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead
 

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Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!


what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead
There it is. Slide 11. Barnes is the go to bullet for small climbers on deer. It's indisputable now.
 
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Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!


what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead


Man, that format is hard to read.


In the first bit they already refer to energy and "punch".



"In short, using varmint rounds for deer requires a highly skilled hunter who is confident in placing a precise shot." - I don't think that should be limited to those who use "varmint" rounds.

"Because these rounds often fragment or lose energy before exiting, they don’t create a blood trail on the far side of the animal, which can complicate tracking. For this reason, hunters relying on varmint rounds must be skilled trackers or prepared for the possibility that their game may run some distance before succumbing to the wound." Less distance than a bullet that sacrifices damage for penetration?

"Choosing the right bullet is essential when using varmint rounds on deer. Lightweight, frangible bullets designed for varmint hunting may not perform well on deer due to their tendency to fragment too early. Heavier bullets with controlled expansion, such as Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX, are better suited for hunters using small calibers on deer. These bullets are designed to retain weight upon impact, providing deeper penetration and more consistent performance on large game."- No. This is the closest they get to being able to cover the heavy for caliber "varmint" bullets, but they don't. Mostly focused on sub 60gr .22 cal, so mostly missing the point.


There's a lot more that could be quoted, but that's enough, no, missed the point, and article is over a month old.

Almost all bullets shown are fmj or otm.
 

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Man, that format is hard to read.


In the first bit they already refer to energy and "punch".



"In short, using varmint rounds for deer requires a highly skilled hunter who is confident in placing a precise shot." - I don't think that should be limited to those who use "varmint" rounds.

"Because these rounds often fragment or lose energy before exiting, they don’t create a blood trail on the far side of the animal, which can complicate tracking. For this reason, hunters relying on varmint rounds must be skilled trackers or prepared for the possibility that their game may run some distance before succumbing to the wound." Less distance than a bullet that sacrifices damage for penetration?

"Choosing the right bullet is essential when using varmint rounds on deer. Lightweight, frangible bullets designed for varmint hunting may not perform well on deer due to their tendency to fragment too early. Heavier bullets with controlled expansion, such as Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX, are better suited for hunters using small calibers on deer. These bullets are designed to retain weight upon impact, providing deeper penetration and more consistent performance on large game."- No. This is the closest they get to being able to cover the heavy for caliber "varmint" bullets, but they don't. Mostly focused on sub 60gr .22 cal, so mostly missing the point.


There's a lot more that could be quoted, but that's enough, no, missed the point, and article is over a month old.

Almost all bullets shown are fmj or otm.
Thanks for the summary BG. My guess is their IT team is studying SEO and wants the traffic that small calibers are generating on the interwebs
 
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Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!


what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead
Sounds like someone asked chat gtp for a summary of the most popular cartridge threads on RS and it spat this out.
 
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