Training day for first elk hunt

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So I have decided that this is the year and I WILL do some sort of elk hunt. I have been working out for a bit now but have decided to increase my preparation. Partly motivated by the Hunt Backcountry podcast experience project, I decided to try some different things this weekend. Here’s a quick report on my last roughly 36 hours.

I started Friday morning with a call from my brother about a group of hogs that were caught in a net wire patch of about 20 acres by his house. That wasn’t really directly elk hunt training related, but wasn’t a chance I was going to miss. I took my Kimber 6 GT loaded up with 107 TMK’s (thread about it here. https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/new-kimber-6-gt-and-107-tmk-report.442692/#post-4606345)

He used a Tikka 223 with 77 grain TMK’s. Five pigs were trapped in there. I put the first bullet in 3, he got the first bullet in 2. My shots tended to immobilize a bit faster than his. The difference was obvious. However, these pigs were amped up from the start and in active flight mode as a reaction to being trapped. IMG_2835.jpegIMG_2834.jpegSimple entry and exit through shoulders at about 100 yards.

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Some interesting exits from shots that immobilized these hogs. Keep in mind several shots were taken at pigs running directly away or at barely angled and mostly away.

After that, I decided to go check zeros on a couple of rifles with two loads. I had the two GT’s discussed in the above linked thread. I compared point of impact for two loads. 109 ELD-M and 107 TMK both loaded in alpha brass with 40 grains of superformance. Point of impact was identical. Met a buddy and got some packs loaded up. We took the rifles out to the ranch along with packs and camping gear. First stop was a wide open bottom which has ranges out to 8-900 yards. I set up a steel target on a t post stand. We worked our way out to 475 yards for the last shots taken.

A note about myself. I shoot a fair bit at game throughout the year, but almost all of my shots will be at 200 yards and in. A large majority within 100 yards. I know the trip I want to take could require the ability to shoot further so I have decided to work on that. We started at about 350. This was also my first time to work with a scope with a dialing turret setup. I was shocked at how easy 350 was. Just dialed a mil up and was grouping on paper plates and ringing steel. We then moved further away and shot prone off of packs. Easily ring steel at 475 with a 2 mil dial on my rifle and my buddy holding on a 2 mil hash. Had a strong wind blowing at about a 45 degree angle from our backs. Just held left side of the steel and nothing to it.

From there, we loaded up the packs and took off walking across the ranch. My first time to do a hike like that with a weighted pack. Pack weighed about 30 pounds. We did 7.5 miles yesterday and set up a camp along a creek. Built a little fire and just sat for a bit. Never saw any pigs while hiking, but did have some armadillos come out while we were sitting at the camp. Laid packs out and whacked armadillos at about 200 yards.

Got up this morning, made us some coffee on camp stoves. After a couple of cups, pulled down camp and took back off. Covered 8.5 miles over about 5 hours. Averaged a mile every 21 minutes while walking over the day. IMG_2850.jpegStopped by this bald eagle nest while walking I had found on the ranch.

The 8.5 mile mark had us by the steel target we shot yesterday. We had decided to make a little test of ourselves to drop our packs when we got there and make a first shot hit on the steel while tired from the hiking. Dropped the packs and immediately got ready to shoot. Both of us hit with that first shot.
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From there, we did another 4 miles to take us out to 12.5 miles for the day. We finished up before 5 today giving us 20 miles covered with packs within 24 hours.

First time to push myself on the shooting and the hiking with a pack. I’m thinking it’s solid training for a Colorado elk hunt. Let me know if I’m doing it wrong I guess.
 
Hard to simulate elk hunting in the mountains if you're not in the mountains. The up down and elevation are difficult to replicate. I've found the best training is just a) wear a loaded pack during much of your training not so much for the weight but just getting used to wearing a pack constantly and dialing the fit of the pack in. B) The other obvious aspect is just getting as lean as possible and not having to drag the extra weight around in the mountains. Those two things will help immensely. If you can find some hills to hike up that would also be as beneficial as anything else. And do your walking hiking in the boots you'll be hunting in. If you're not a runner there's no sense to train like you're running a marathon...that's unnecessary.

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That’s probably the best way you can go about getting prepared. You’ll be more mentally prepared than most anyone else that’s going for their first elk hunt by actually testing and using your gear.

Don’t worry about training with weight in your pack as much as just getting out and carrying your everyday stuff. Nothing simulates what it feels like to carry a pack loaded with meat off the mountain. All you’re going to do is push your body and get hurt before you ever show up.
 
Love the Bald Eagles! We have a few nests on the Mississippi River here within a few miles of my house. They are awesome magnificent birds watch. Captivating just to watch them fly.
 
Keep us posted on the results after your actual trip. It will be interesting to see how your
flat ground training correlates to the actual trip. I imagine the previous positive responses are spot on.
 
Awesome stuff.

Anything you do beats nothing.
Nothing you do on flat-ish ground will truly prepare you for steep hiking.
 
My experience with pack training in flat land and doing monthly 6 mile Smokey backcountry fly fishing trips shows a definite lessening of my body impacts. Respiratory and some joint tension
is the biggest deficit I experience. My pack is usually 33 to 38 lbs for 4 day trips depending on Season and which gear I take.
 
Unfortunately where I’m at, it’s hard to do any kind of distance going uphill consistently short of just walking up and down the same hill over and over. I am thinking I will start doing that some with a pack to mix in with the weighed vest incline treadmill time. I know the distance and speed doesn’t correlate to the speeds and distance of Colorado, but it seemed like the best way available to me to build up exhaustion while walking with a pack and rifle. Was able to do that mileage without ever having to double back on the same ground so there was always a chance of running up on something to shoot as well. No pigs, but lots of deer out. Come October I can add in shooting a doe and play around with handling meat (yes I know a whitetail is a far different scale than an elk).

I am thinking about trying a hike like I did this weekend about once a month going forward. Just to get used to the pack being on for long periods. I am feeling some soreness in the front of my legs and in the stabilizing muscles through my back and shoulders. Not enough soreness to where I would be concerned about starting again today.

I was using my buddy’s extra kifaru pack. He’s a bit longer torso than me. I think if I had a frame a little better match to my torso I could have dialed in the weight distribution a bit better between hips and shoulders. I’m trying to decide now on a pack to get for myself. Dealing with everything being in the one giant pocket was a bit annoying. The “garage sale” comments from Ryan make a bit more sense now lol. The Teratorn with its divided space seems like a solid option at the moment.

Editing to add in this comment. The ground is relatively low elevation changes, though my routes take me across three different creeks, so there is some elevation changes. However, something that I think is helpful is it isn’t all “flat” in that there is lots of hog rooting that gets crossed where the ground is rough. That definitely hits the stabilizing and balance muscles different when crossing it. I understand that’s good development for dealing with rocky and uneven ground. Assuming I don’t tear up an ankle or knee between now and then from it.
 
Read up on zone 2 training and find a gym with a stairmill or buy a used stair master. Cliff Gray did a podcast with Scott Johnston in January that goes into it. Get a Teratorn!!
 
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