Form struck someone’s nerve

[roosiebull]

I loathe podcats and just listened to the first 2 minutes and shut it off... Completely unbearable no matter the subject matter with whoever this guy is.

So you didn’t quite make it to “there’s no replacement for displacement”?

That guy has been nails on a chalkboard the 2 times I’ve heard him

 

[HighUintas]

I thought the Leupold "best warranty you'll never need" ad was great. I've never owned one, and don't doubt there's those that do hold zero through drops, but I have seen so many warranty reports from guys on here saying that Leupold said it was fixed etc and they got it back and it still didn't work!

 

[Stearinlys]

There are two volumes.
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Wicked thanks!

I thought the Leupold "best warranty you'll never need" ad was great. I've never owned one, and don't doubt there's those that do hold zero through drops, but I have seen so many warranty reports from guys on here saying that Leupold said it was fixed etc and they got it back and it still didn't work!

Probably worked fine at the factory after being repaired, but after going through the "Postal Service Drop-Test" they just failed again! LOL

 

[JDBAK]

If I recall correctly, I believe Frank Glaser was a proponent of smaller calibers as well. He used them a lot on Grizzley's Moose and Sheep. I seem to remember him saying rifle caliber is less important than marksmanship and he killed a pile of animals with a bunch of calibers as a market hunter for awhile. "Alaska's Wolf Man: The 1915-1955 Wilderness Adventures of Frank Glaser" by Jim Rearden is well worth the read regardless of the caliber discussion.

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GREAT read! It’s packed with the wildest outdoor adventures you’ll find.

 

[KurtR]

So you didn’t quite make it to “there’s no replacement for displacement”?

That guy has been nails on a chalkboard the 2 times I’ve heard him

He was talking about snowmobiles

 

[robby denning]

Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!

MSN

what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead

 

[UpNorth89]

There's over an hour of my life I can't get back listening to that JVB podcast. Thanks Rokslide lol.

 

[huntnful]

There's over an hour of my life I can't get back listening to that JVB podcast. Thanks Rokslide lol.

But think of all the knowledge you’ve gained now

 

[UpNorth89]

But think of all the knowledge you’ve gained now

Exactly. Now I know that a bull elk is basically comparable to a bull elephant.

 

[huntnful]

Exactly. Now I know that a bull elk is basically comparable to a bull elephant.

Lmfao . If you can’t go through the back hip of a bull and have it exit out the opposing front shoulder….. shame on you

 

[Marshfly]

Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!

MSN

what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead

There it is. Slide 11. Barnes is the go to bullet for small calibers on deer. It's indisputable now.

 

[Billy Goat]

Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!

MSN

what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead

Man, that format is hard to read.


In the first bit they already refer to energy and "punch".



"In short, using varmint rounds for deer requires a highly skilled hunter who is confident in placing a precise shot." - I don't think that should be limited to those who use "varmint" rounds.

"Because these rounds often fragment or lose energy before exiting, they don’t create a blood trail on the far side of the animal, which can complicate tracking. For this reason, hunters relying on varmint rounds must be skilled trackers or prepared for the possibility that their game may run some distance before succumbing to the wound." Less distance than a bullet that sacrifices damage for penetration?

"Choosing the right bullet is essential when using varmint rounds on deer. Lightweight, frangible bullets designed for varmint hunting may not perform well on deer due to their tendency to fragment too early. Heavier bullets with controlled expansion, such as Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX, are better suited for hunters using small calibers on deer. These bullets are designed to retain weight upon impact, providing deeper penetration and more consistent performance on large game."- No. This is the closest they get to being able to cover the heavy for caliber "varmint" bullets, but they don't. Mostly focused on sub 60gr .22 cal, so mostly missing the point.


There's a lot more that could be quoted, but that's enough, no, missed the point, and article is over a month old.

Almost all bullets shown are fmj or otm.

 

[robby denning]

Man, that format is hard to read.


In the first bit they already refer to energy and "punch".



"In short, using varmint rounds for deer requires a highly skilled hunter who is confident in placing a precise shot." - I don't think that should be limited to those who use "varmint" rounds.

"Because these rounds often fragment or lose energy before exiting, they don’t create a blood trail on the far side of the animal, which can complicate tracking. For this reason, hunters relying on varmint rounds must be skilled trackers or prepared for the possibility that their game may run some distance before succumbing to the wound." Less distance than a bullet that sacrifices damage for penetration?

"Choosing the right bullet is essential when using varmint rounds on deer. Lightweight, frangible bullets designed for varmint hunting may not perform well on deer due to their tendency to fragment too early. Heavier bullets with controlled expansion, such as Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX, are better suited for hunters using small calibers on deer. These bullets are designed to retain weight upon impact, providing deeper penetration and more consistent performance on large game."- No. This is the closest they get to being able to cover the heavy for caliber "varmint" bullets, but they don't. Mostly focused on sub 60gr .22 cal, so mostly missing the point.


There's a lot more that could be quoted, but that's enough, no, missed the point, and article is over a month old.

Almost all bullets shown are fmj or otm.

Thanks for the summary BG. My guess is their IT team is studying SEO and wants the traffic that small calibers are generating on the interwebs

 

[Billy Goat]

Thanks for the summary BG. My guess is their IT team is studying SEO and wants the traffic that small calibers are generating on the interwebs

Correct.

And they got my click even tho I knew it was gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Super busy this morning trying to get my crap done so I can work out, so disclosure: I didn't read this whole thread or this article I'm posting but figured someone witha few minutes to spare could vet it

this is on MSN.com!!!!

MSN

what did they conclude?

Is Form infiltrating the survival world too?

#savinglead

Sounds like someone asked chat gtp for a summary of the most popular cartridge threads on RS and it spat this out.

 

[robby denning]

Sounds like someone asked chat gtp for a summary of the most popular cartridge threads on RS and it spat this out.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Thanks for the summary BG. My guess is their IT team is studying SEO and wants the traffic that small calibers are generating on the interwebs

They gotta do something to stay relevant…my first thought when you posted a link to MSN was “they still exist???”


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[Dackdack]

I listened to my first shoot to hunt podcast today and I’m sure they are good guys but I don’t get it.
I’m not against using smaller stuff for large game but I feel like bragging about how you can’t wait to shoot a grizzly bear with a .22 is a little much. I don’t follow many influencers but it seems like these guys have gone from .300 ultra mag is overkill and a 7mm is perfect to a 7mm is too much and a .22 creedmore Is unreal a little quick. If They want to shoot these guns they can have their .22 arc and 6.5/7mm PRC/ improved as far as I’m concerned and I’d advise anyone listening to these people to unsubscribe to these podcasts and buy a decent gun that’s not to big and not to small, learn how to shoot it and just go hunting. Believe it or not more
Time in the field will lead you to success far quicker than listening to “form” or shoot to hunt.

 

[hunterjmj]

I listened to my first shoot to hunt podcast today and I’m sure they are good guys but I don’t get it.
I’m not against using smaller stuff for large game but I feel like bragging about how you can’t wait to shoot a grizzly bear with a .22 is a little much. I don’t follow many influencers but it seems like these guys have gone from .300 ultra mag is overkill and a 7mm is perfect to a 7mm is too much and a .22 creedmore Is unreal a little quick. If They want to shoot these guns they can have their .22 arc and 6.5/7mm PRC/ improved as far as I’m concerned and I’d advise anyone listening to these people to unsubscribe to these podcasts and buy a decent gun that’s not to big and not to small, learn how to shoot it and just go hunting. Believe it or not more
Time in the field will lead you to success far quicker than listening to “form” or shoot to hunt.

You'll probably be surprised how many people hunt with a .223 then.