Form struck someone’s nerve

[roosiebull]

Genuine question what were the great points that jvb made?

“There’s no replacement for displacement”?

 

[Billogna]

“There’s no replacement for displacement”?

The treasures bestowed by that podcast were too numerous and too heavy for one man to carry alone. Fudd's unite!!

 

[KHntr]

All you guys that listened to JVB's podcast(s) and found issue with them, you know you can leave a review and a comment on the podcast, right?

I mean, it isn't hard to hang onto a 4.9 out of 5 rating if the only guys who are leaving a review are the ones who kill thousands of animals a year in New Zealand and know that the only effective round for feral goats is a 338 Lapooooahhhh.

 

[bombhunter]

All you guys that listened to JVB's podcast(s) and found issue with them, you know you can leave a review and a comment on the podcast, right?

I mean, it isn't hard to hang onto a 4.9 out of 5 rating if the only guys who are leaving a review are the ones who kill thousands of animals a year in New Zealand and know that the only effective round for feral goats is a 338 Lapooooahhhh.

I believe JVB pronounces it “Lop-wuh”. Which has many of the same letters as wallop. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[Mountainrancher]

All you guys that listened to JVB's podcast(s) and found issue with them, you know you can leave a review and a comment on the podcast, right?

I mean, it isn't hard to hang onto a 4.9 out of 5 rating if the only guys who are leaving a review are the ones who kill thousands of animals a year in New Zealand and know that the only effective round for feral goats is a 338 Lapooooahhhh.

Oh believe you me I absolutely left a comment on the second episode about how ridiculous it was. Interestingly it appears that the second episode has been taken down now.

 

[cmahoney]

I believe JVB pronounces it “Lop-wuh”. Which has many of the same letters as wallop. Coincidence? I think not.

Do you think he hired a speech coach to learn how to talk like that or is that prestigious accent DIY?


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[gabenzeke]

Do you think he hired a speech coach to learn how to talk like that or is that prestigious accent DIY?


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His pronunciation of chassis makes me want to throw my phone out the window every time.

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[KHntr]

Maybe but where I live we have grizzlies, black bear, moose , caribou, elk, stones , goats , mule deer , white tail, blacktail , mt lions and I don’t know a single person with a gun smaller than .243 and those are blacktail hunters. The point I’m trying to make is the most successful hunters I know don’t get into the weeds with what these podcasters recommend. They buy a reasonable gun and go hunting . These guys can shoot whatever oddball combo they want but they sound a little dumb talking about wanting a light recoil rifle capable of killing at 1200 yards.

So why are you on Rokslide thread about small calibers then, if a good ol' Remchester 3006 will do it all in your neck of the woods? Making an educated guess based on your critter line up, Region 6? And more importantly, why do you care what someone else uses for a rifle and cartridge combo?
I think the big issue that one should understand on this particular thread, is that there has been a guy misquoting and misrepresenting a bunch of information from the guys who have been there and done that and got all the tshirts, trying to generate traffic for his podcast and stay relevant. Too bad that JVB opted to go with his fan base letters instead of looking at all the information that is available.
I was especially disgusted with how hard he was sucking Steve's ass in the 22 ARC 22 Creedmoor in Africa podcast, versus how he went full Street Preacher when it was just himself on his podcast speaking to his congregation (no offense intended to legit preachermans that might read this...)

There is such a thing as guys who are hunters, and guys who are shooters, and guys who are hunters that shoot, and guys who are shooters that hunt.... Sounds like you know hunters, who own A rifle. Nothing wrong with that, just different motivations to get the most personal enjoyment they can from their recreational time.

I'm more of a hunter who shoots, in 7B. I don't even know how many rifles I have that fall into the category that I call "culturally appropriate" for hunting, but I can say that in the last 3 years I've killed 3 bull elk, and 3 bull moose, and of those 6 bulls four tipped over to a "pissant rifle".
Of those 3 bull elk, one shot with a 280AI and 150TTSX's, one fell to a 300wm with 180gr PSP's, and one fell from an 88 ELD m. All three quartering to me, all three were "rut swelled up muscle and hide", but the one that died the fastest was the one shot with the 88 ELD m from the Mouse Rifle. All 3 moose were immediately dead, at ranges of 151 yards to 352 yards. In fact, they all died MUCH faster than the multiples I have shot with a 264WM, 280AI, 300WM, and 300 Ultra using mono's and bonded bullets.

If it wasn't for internet forums and podcasts, I would still be shooting elk and moose every year with a 300 Ultra and TTSX's, and watching the light fade from their eyes minutes later when I walked up to them gasping their last breaths as they tried to hang onto the last of the air.


I much prefer stuff to die RFN when one of those nasty little pills hits the front half of anything.

 

[LONE HUNTER]

JVB sounds like AI created the most boring human voice in existence and then added a pious personality to it.

\\So is “hard hard quartering” the new euphemism for a Texas heart shot while one continues to talk of ethics?

Yep.

I get awful tired of the "raking angle" comments. I grew up shooting bigger rifles and it was still "broadside or quartering away". None of this "I need a projectile to pass through 4 feet of elk to get to the vitals" nonsense ol been-a-dick talks about.

 

[Felix40]

#1. The podcast has “backcountry” in the name but all he talks about is hunting in Africa and uber expensive guided hunts.

#2. He didn’t spend any time actually looking into the topic before recording himself having mouth diarrhea. He said so much incorrect information and misrepresented the small caliber thing so badly that it had to be on purpose.

“The exo guys had trouble killing caribou with 6mm”. Actually, the one shot with a 6mm went down in 20 yards. The one shot with a 7mm required follow ups.

“You need a hard, deep penetrating bullet from at least a 7mm to get through the paunch”. “Let me tell you a story about a 30 cal partition that didn’t make it through a paunch.”

“All of Form’s experience came from culling whitetail does.”

“People have been shooting animals for 100s of years and the best calibers are well established since the beginning.”

“Frank Glaser only said a 220 swift works because he didn’t have any other options to compare it to.”

Everything the guy says is laughable.

 

[Rich M]

You got to come out of the basement if you want to be in the know

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Im down here in FL fishing and shooting mini-deer and osceola turkeys. Not too big on following what is happening in mtn time.

Just curious when names get dropped.

 

[J.B.]

Looks like the second episode has been pulled from spotify, I was going to read the reviews on it. The ones on episode one did not disappoint…

 

[khuber84]

Who the F care. All press is good press as they say. I've never even heard of JVB so what he says is completely unproven shit in my mind. Truthfully that's what everyone says on this forum is to my ears, until I can verify through my own testing/observations. Trust but verify people.......

 

[Dixie]

Rokslider after hearing JVB podcast

 

[Hunter270Win]

Not sure why some people are still fighting this so hard. A .223 in the right spot is better than a .308 in the wrong spot. I always think you should shoot whatever you want though.

 

[tony]

Looks like the second episode has been pulled from spotify, I was going to read the reviews on it. The ones on episode one did not disappoint…

I wondered about that, I was scrolling through episodes to listen to on the way to work.

Dude is up for a "gunnie" award for best podcast of the year. Whatever that is.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

“The exo guys had trouble killing caribou with 6mm”. Actually, the one shot with a 6mm went down in 20 yards. The one shot with a 7mm required follow ups.

Two were shot with the 6cm, the first the shooter put 2 rounds into it in 5sec and it was on the ground in 8sec total. Both were quick kills.

The one larger caliber (7?) required multiple shots over a duration. The other was a 7saum and dropped at the shot.

 

[Bluumoon]

.223 vs pumpkins, definitive science, small cartridges are enough

 

[Billy Goat]

This has spiraled way out of control… guys we can still shoot, coyotes, bobcats, a lion if you lucky. Hell use whatever caliber you want…

Reminds me, where was JVB on the Prop 127?


He make any comments on it or sit that one out?

 

[Dackdack]

So why are you on Rokslide thread about small calibers then, if a good ol' Remchester 3006 will do it all in your neck of the woods? Making an educated guess based on your critter line up, Region 6? And more importantly, why do you care what someone else uses for a rifle and cartridge combo?
I think the big issue that one should understand on this particular thread, is that there has been a guy misquoting and misrepresenting a bunch of information from the guys who have been there and done that and got all the tshirts, trying to generate traffic for his podcast and stay relevant. Too bad that JVB opted to go with his fan base letters instead of looking at all the information that is available.
I was especially disgusted with how hard he was sucking Steve's ass in the 22 ARC 22 Creedmoor in Africa podcast, versus how he went full Street Preacher when it was just himself on his podcast speaking to his congregation (no offense intended to legit preachermans that might read this...)

There is such a thing as guys who are hunters, and guys who are shooters, and guys who are hunters that shoot, and guys who are shooters that hunt.... Sounds like you know hunters, who own A rifle. Nothing wrong with that, just different motivations to get the most personal enjoyment they can from their recreational time.

I'm more of a hunter who shoots, in 7B. I don't even know how many rifles I have that fall into the category that I call "culturally appropriate" for hunting, but I can say that in the last 3 years I've killed 3 bull elk, and 3 bull moose, and of those 6 bulls four tipped over to a "pissant rifle".
Of those 3 bull elk, one shot with a 280AI and 150TTSX's, one fell to a 300wm with 180gr PSP's, and one fell from an 88 ELD m. All three quartering to me, all three were "rut swelled up muscle and hide", but the one that died the fastest was the one shot with the 88 ELD m from the Mouse Rifle. All 3 moose were immediately dead, at ranges of 151 yards to 352 yards. In fact, they all died MUCH faster than the multiples I have shot with a 264WM, 280AI, 300WM, and 300 Ultra using mono's and bonded bullets.

If it wasn't for internet forums and podcasts, I would still be shooting elk and moose every year with a 300 Ultra and TTSX's, and watching the light fade from their eyes minutes later when I walked up to them gasping their last breaths as they tried to hang onto the last of the air.


I much prefer stuff to die RFN when one of those nasty little pills hits the front half of anything.

I hunt region 7 and 3 mostly. I shoot a 6.5 PRC so I don’t shoot a cannon myself. I draw the line at what I am using.

If you hunt 7 and were solo would you honestly choose to pack a .22 arc or a .223 over something a little bigger?