New Rifle Build- Bullet and Caliber- Mono metal- Thoughts?

[jdvangeystel]

125 Grain 6.5 cal McGuire Copper rose- impact velocity of 2664 fps- buck was bedded and never stood up


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[WI-Carcosa]

125 Grain 6.5 cal McGuire Copper rose- impact velocity of 2664 fps- buck was bedded and never stood up


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Impressive!! Was that the magazine or single feed?

 

[jdvangeystel]

Impressive!! Was that the magazine or single feed?

That was a magazine feed


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[DagOtto]

125 Grain 6.5 cal McGuire Copper rose- impact velocity of 2664 fps- buck was bedded and never stood up


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Thank for sharing this necropsy report. I'm having a hard time seeing what is going on with the wound. Other than the fact that the bullet destroyed a lot of the heart and lungs?! Was there an exit wound and if so about how big dia? I'm entering all of this data in a running spreadsheet so thanks ahead of time.

 

[jdvangeystel]

Thank for sharing this necropsy report. I'm having a hard time seeing what is going on with the wound. Other than the fact that the bullet destroyed a lot of the heart and lungs?! Was there an exit wound and if so about how big dia? I'm entering all of this data in a running spreadsheet so thanks ahead of time.

That isn’t heart or lung that is behind the front shoulder/leg on the entrance side, with the front quarter of deer removed


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[DagOtto]

That isn’t heart or lung that is behind the front shoulder/leg on the entrance side, with the front quarter of deer removed


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okay, thanks for clarification. Did the bullet exit?

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

A little feild point sized wound channel on a bull at 956 yards...
300 Norma Improved
McGuire Ballistics 195GR Copper Rose SF
3325MV

 

[jdvangeystel]

okay, thanks for clarification. Did the bullet exit?

Yes the bullet did exit


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[DagOtto]

Hello, I thought I'd give a quick update about the status of the new rifle which prompted me to start this thread and for which I have gotten such great advice through all of the replies.

Given the goals for this gun and the feedback I got from everyone I tentatively decided to re-build my old Tikka T3 30-06 as a 6mm Creedmore. However, as hunting season started and my hunting group shot animals with various guns I realized that I have a very, very nice and accurate 6.5 CM and a decently nice and accurate .243 already. Along with a nice 280 AI. So I shifted gears and took some of your advice and decided to build a .223 gun for practice rounds and likely for hunting.

I also shifted gears and purchased a new Tikka T3x Stainless in .223 because I decided I'd stick with the factory barrel until I shoot it out to save money. After building a number of Defiance/Proof/AG Composites and Pure Precision builds I wanted to see if I could build this one on a budget.

So, today I received the gun and assembled the following:

Tikka T3X Lite Stainless in .223 JRTXB312 (EuroOptic) $700 (after 75 rebate)
Stocky's Ultra Carbon Hunter VG Stock (Stocky's) $627
Sportsmatch T084 Rings (Airguns of Arizona) $75
Replacement Trigger Spring (Anarchy Outdoors) $10
Trijicon Huron 3-12 x 40 2700003 (EuroOptic) $455
Butler Creek Comfort Stretch Sling (Butler Creek) $31

Total weight- 8.1 pounds
Total cost- $1898 minus whatever I can sell the factory stock for.

Next steps-- Tonight I got the entire things degreased, the trigger spring installed, and the whole thing built, torqued and thread locked.

Next steps-
-want to bore scope the barrel just to see what I got

- want to shoot this gun a lot.

- also willl take 3" off the barrel and thread it, then install a thread adaptor and suppressor.

-need to buy a second larger capacity magazine

-might replace the bolt lever.

Questions:

- I plan on buying 1 case of match ammo for practice. Any recommendaions as to which brands are best?

-When you use nail polish as loctite replacement do you apply it to the threads, then allow it to dry anf then re-install?

Dag

 

[Macintosh]

- I plan on buying 1 case of match ammo for practice. Any recommendaions as to which brands are best?

-When you use nail polish as loctite replacement do you apply it to the threads, then allow it to dry anf then re-install?

-1???

-apply to threads, install wet, let dry. Add oregano, stir and serve.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

- I plan on buying 1 case of match ammo for practice. Any recommendaions as to which brands are best?

The ADI 55gr blitzkings are affordable and have shot well in my tikka 223 and others also. The 69gr matchking version has mixed reviews lot by lot but I haven't seen anyone complain about the 55gr yet. Brass looks of decent quality to reload afterwards and no crimp to deal with.

 

[williamshunting]

@Formidilosus what are your opinions if any on the McGuire 93 grain 6mm? My father-in-law shot his California muley and bull elk with the 168 grain 30 cal with impressive results, granted both shots were under 200 yards. Just suggesting another possible non lead option for the OP.

I shot my tule cow elk last year with the McGuire 93 grain 6mm. 475 yards one shot dropped. Highly recommend.

 

[williamshunting]

I shot my tule cow elk last year with the McGuire 93 grain 6mm. 475 yards one shot dropped. Highly recommend.

Picture for reference. High shoulder entrance.

 

[DagOtto]

Forgot to post pics, not that looks matter

It is not nearly as sexy as the Anti-x, Proof Carbon, Altitude stock, NF scope .308 I built for a friend a few months ago. But also several thousand dollars cheaper.

With scope but no suppressor it weighs 8.1 pounds.

Bought 4 cases of hornady eld-m and got first rounds down range…..1.45” 10 round first 100 yard grouo… here we go.

Do ya’ll save your .223 brass?

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Do ya’ll save your .223 brass?

I'm saving that ADI brass I mentioned above and plan to work up a load with the 73eldm most likely (I also got a box of 75bthp and 53vmax here)

 

[amassi]

Forgot to post pics, not that looks matter

It is not nearly as sexy as the Anti-x, Proof Carbon, Altitude stock, NF scope .308 I built for a friend a few months ago. But also several thousand dollars cheaper.

With scope but no suppressor it weighs 8.1 pounds.

Bought 4 cases of hornady eld-m and got first rounds down range…..1.45” 10 round first 100 yard grouo… here we go.

Do ya’ll save your .223 brass?

I save 223 brass if shot out of a bolt and no crimped primer. Gas gun brass I don’t fuss with.
What needed hammering?


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[DagOtto]

I save 223 brass if shot out of a bolt and no crimped primer. Gas gun brass I don’t fuss with.
What needed hammering?


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Was swapping a trigger out on a 700 clone for my brother.

 

[DagOtto]

Picture for reference. High shoulder entrance.

Hey, thanks for posting this. I'm tracking necropsy reports for various calibers and bullet and wonder if you know approximate muzzle or impact velocity from your gun and also if there was an exit or not?
Thanks!

 

[williamshunting]

Hey, thanks for posting this. I'm tracking necropsy reports for various calibers and bullet and wonder if you know approximate muzzle or impact velocity from your gun and also if there was an exit or

Hey, thanks for posting this. I'm tracking necropsy reports for various calibers and bullet and wonder if you know approximate muzzle or impact velocity from your gun and also if there was an exit or not?
Thanks!

Muzzle velocity was roughly 3180. I have since changed loads and don't remember what the impact velocity would have been. There was an exit on this as well, out the base of the neck.

Had a client over the past weekend take a tule cow as well with a 6mm cm and the mcguire 93gr. 180 yards, hit behind rips, passed through stomach, liver, lungs, and exited opposite shoulder. Went less than 100 yards and was done.

 

[Scoutfan]

Glad to see you made a much better choice than rebuilding your 30/06! I strongly recommend a 223 to anyone that is trying to become a better shooter!
Now when you are ready for your next rifle reload your 30/06. Thread the barrel for suppressor use and load some light hammers or 130 Barnes. Recoil will be pretty mild and it won't cost much at all. The 06 just works and is very easy to reload from mild to wild.