Disregard politics or people what’s the worst state to live in?

88man

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I do best in sunshine and low humidity. I am fine with the cold and wind. I hate humidity. I hate any amount of traffic.

South east in summer is out for me.
 
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Man this thread hits home!

I'll admit I-70 doesn't do us any favors. But we do have some beautiful country and great people. I hope you'll take my word for it and not try to find it out for yourself.

I would consider moving. I don't think I could ever find a place that competes with here as far as our ability to make a living (my wife and I both have good 6 figure jobs), actually afford living (cost of living is low, probably bottom third in the country), and raise and educate my kids (some of the best public schools in the country). For the time being we'll fly to the beach and drive to the mountains.
 

TheHammer

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Man this thread hits home!

I'll admit I-70 doesn't do us any favors. But we do have some beautiful country and great people. I hope you'll take my word for it and not try to find it out for yourself.

I would consider moving. I don't think I could ever find a place that competes with here as far as our ability to make a living (my wife and I both have good 6 figure jobs), actually afford living (cost of living is low, probably bottom third in the country), and raise and educate my kids (some of the best public schools in the country). For the time being we'll fly to the beach and drive to the mountains.
What area are you in? I pass through Colby twice a year and think to myself “I could compromise in these parts”…
 

Trial153

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10) Nevada
9) Georgia
8) Delaware
7) N&S Carolina
6) Florida
5) Maine
4) Indiana
3) Connecticut
2) Texas
1) Massachusetts
 

LostArra

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Florida is the worst ! Non driving F**ks everywhere , people leave the shithole state they live in to come down here and screw it up for six months . Driving ten miles under the speed limit while pointing out every little thing to their company , "We had shrimp there , it was delicious" and "We get ice cream there" .
STAY HOME !
You left out the cars with the Continuous Left Turn signal.
 

DooleyVT

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The obvious common denominator for ruining anything good is people. The best thing I ever did was move from the suburbs of Massachusetts 10+ years ago to rural Vermont. I'm certain that it added several years to my life expectancy. ZERO traffic, the greenest grass, farmers markets, no long lines, dirt roads, much nicer people, fresh air, good jobs, wildlife, and an overall peacefulness. Anywhere without those things has my vote as "one of the worst places to live". Massachusetts made my chit list and I would never move back there.
 

tony

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GF took a travel medical job in Vermont, rented a little cabin off an older couple. Right between Northfield and Berlin, just outside Montpelier. Made the long drive from WV a few times, flew a few others.
Beautiful state, defiantly can see and feel the blue though.
We moved her in April 22 and the day after we were there it snowed like 4 inches! She was there til this past November.
 

Lytro

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Having lived in 5 states so far, the worst one has been New Mexico and it's not even close. There's a couple cool areas, but there's just too much hot/dry/dusty/open nothingness with very little fishing available. I'd maybe change my mind if I could do better than 0-8 on elk applications there though.
 

TheHammer

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I'm in Kansas City, far eastern end of the state. But I hunt out in western Kansas for the mule deer and the landscape. I look forward to a late season archery hunt more than anything else all year.

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Those hills look like a good time. Beautiful deer! I have customers in kc, and a couple throughout the state. The young man who elk hunts with me occasionally shoots for hays university, he and I have been discussing such hunt opportunities.
 

Kronos

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With unlimited money and time off from work, sure. But the few years after college that I lived in ND I shot 100 ditch parrots each year just going before work and on the weekends. That was while living and working in the capital city. We did plenty of waterfowl hunting before work too. A person could shoot a limit of ducks and geese, make it to church, then go catch a limit of walleyes, and still have time to sit in the deer stand if you wanted to. And then sleep in your own bed. I could be at work any day in the fall and if the weather was right, I could just take off and go sit in the stand. You can literally set 100's of snares all winter within an hour drive and not need an ATV. Besides a couple of villages, there are very few places in AK like that, if any. And the ice fishing isn't even in the same conversation.

We got well-paying jobs with plenty of time off and I've made some great relationships with a few pilots/transporters, so I can make AK worth it. But even going on a few fly out trips a year and baiting bears each spring, I still can only realistically hunt maybe 1/3 of the days I used to be able to in ND with WAY less of a headache and taking virtually no days off of work. As far as world class hunting/fishing within a 20-minute drive from your front door, ND is hard to beat.

Edit to add: your results may be different if you grew up east of Valley City. They should draw a line straight north and south of Valley City and give everything East to Minnesota.
I just spend far more time actually hunting and fishing in AK than ND. I can’t eat a pheasant a day 3 months straight to stay under the possession limit and get 100 pheasants in a year. Same with walleye… I can’t eat the walleye fast enough to stay under the possession limits.

Where as in AK I can catch 30 salmon and be set for the year and not have to eat them once I catch 10 to go fishing for more.

I guess the big reason I moved to Alaska was to spend less time in my bed. I enjoy the 30 days a year I get to wander the mountains and float the rivers hunting moose, sheep, and mountain goats and not having it be a once in a lifetime opportunity like it is for most North Dakotans for those species. I still hunt pheasants every year in SD or ND and bring some walleyes back from the Rainy River every year too.

Living in AK is pretty awesome. We hunt everything as a non-residents for a pretty reasonable cost in the lower 48 yet we don’t have to pay the big money hunts in AK for grizzlies, goats and sheep.

I get what you’re saying tho about ND… there is lots of opportunity, if you can eat it fast enough to provide more opportunity. Every one of my hunting buddies from the Midwest is jealous of my hunting up here… they all say “maybe one day.” That “maybe one day” is just another regular year of hunting for us Alaskans. Something too many Alaskans take for granted.
 

AKBC

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Man this thread hits home!

I'll admit I-70 doesn't do us any favors. But we do have some beautiful country and great people. I hope you'll take my word for it and not try to find it out for yourself.

I would consider moving. I don't think I could ever find a place that competes with here as far as our ability to make a living (my wife and I both have good 6 figure jobs), actually afford living (cost of living is low, probably bottom third in the country), and raise and educate my kids (some of the best public schools in the country). For the time being we'll fly to the beach and drive to the mountains.
I lived in Olathe KS for four years and loved roaming around the state; I found it beautiful. I met a retired farmer near Herington who told me he had traveled the world but thought the view from his house was the best he had seen.
 

Marbles

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Sounds like you would hate Alaska. If you visit, go straight to Bethel, then go back home. Otherwise AK is just horrible.
 
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Oklahoma puts all their ugly shit next to I 40 so you won't get off the freeway and look around.
Just like NJ everyone thinks of the Turnpike like the Soprano's then the Housewives of Nj and the Jersey shore. All of which is not even close to what NJ is overall. I live on the Jersey Shore and I have caught doormat summer flounder and striped bass at the end of my street. We have bow hunting 10 minutes away for P&Y size deer as well as some of the best mountain biking in the state in my town. Only a 30 minute ferry ride to see a Broadway play without having to live in the BS of NYC. The only downsides to this state is cost of living related to the forbidden comments.
 
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