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Lil-Rokslider
They stuck them right on elk and deer wintering grounds.
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Colorado wolves released today
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The original number I saw was 50 to be released over a 3-5 year period.
The biggest issue we'll have in Colorado is that we will never be a Red state again so any delisting efforts will be rejected.
I didn't see 50 in the first year, I saw 50 as the first check point of progression. Could you point me to the 50 in the first year stuff?
Not saying they won't move the goal posts (they will) but this is what was on the CPW site. I didn't see anything about needing to actually drop 50 wolves on the ground specifically.
"Wolves will be managed within Colorado using a phased approach based on the minimum number of animals known to be present in the state. These phases will correspond with the status of the species on the Colorado Threatened and Endangered Species list. There is no wolf population objective in the final management and restoration plan.
Currently, wolves are State Endangered. Wolves will be downlisted from State Endangered (Phase 1) to State Threatened (Phase 2) when CPW biologists document a minimum wintertime count of 50 wolves anywhere in the state for four successive years. Wolves will be delisted from the State Threatened and Endangered species list and classified as delisted, nongame (Phase 3) when a minimum count of at least 150 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed for 2 successive years, or a minimum count of at least 200 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed, with no temporal requirement.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has designated the wolf population in Colorado as “Experimental” which relaxes take prohibitions. As a federally listed species, there is a strict prohibition against regulated hunting and other forms of take."
cpw.state.co.us
"Wolves will be managed within Colorado using a phased approach based on the minimum number of animals known to be present in the state. These phases will correspond with the status of the species on the Colorado Threatened and Endangered Species list. There is no wolf population objective in the final management and restoration plan.
Currently, wolves are State Endangered. Wolves will be downlisted from State Endangered (Phase 1) to State Threatened (Phase 2) when CPW biologists document a minimum wintertime count of 50 wolves anywhere in the state for four successive years. Wolves will be delisted from the State Threatened and Endangered species list and classified as delisted, nongame (Phase 3) when a minimum count of at least 150 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed for 2 successive years, or a minimum count of at least 200 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed, with no temporal requirement.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has designated the wolf population in Colorado as “Experimental” which relaxes take prohibitions. As a federally listed species, there is a strict prohibition against regulated hunting and other forms of take."
Bringing Wolves Back to Colorado
Proposition 114, now state statute 33-2-105.8, passed on November 3, 2020.
jmez
WKR
Come on guys I've been assured in other threads that they will be delisted and managed when goals are met.
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Foldem
WKR
I was hoping it was going to happen on the release video on that fat ass politician opening the cage
What do you see in the final text of initiative 107 that states that? Seems like section (3)(a)(IV) establishes a means to delist. Now I'm not saying the goal posts won't move but I don't see anything supporting your statement?
Colorado Proposition 114, Gray Wolf Reintroduction Initiative (2020)
Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics
Right? Where are all the BHA bros to tell us how great this is for “conservation”? Oh here is the plan on the cow website… once they meet objective they will become non game species… if they decide there is a “problem” wolf or the ungulates are falling below sustainable numbers, guess who will kill them for us… cpw or feds, on our dime. But yeah I’m the asshole for reading the plan and not believing the politicians
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Not saying they won't move the goal posts (they will) but this is what was on the CPW site. I didn't see anything about needing to actually drop 50 wolves on the ground specifically.
"Wolves will be managed within Colorado using a phased approach based on the minimum number of animals known to be present in the state. These phases will correspond with the status of the species on the Colorado Threatened and Endangered Species list. There is no wolf population objective in the final management and restoration plan.
Currently, wolves are State Endangered. Wolves will be downlisted from State Endangered (Phase 1) to State Threatened (Phase 2) when CPW biologists document a minimum wintertime count of 50 wolves anywhere in the state for four successive years. Wolves will be delisted from the State Threatened and Endangered species list and classified as delisted, nongame (Phase 3) when a minimum count of at least 150 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed for 2 successive years, or a minimum count of at least 200 wolves anywhere in Colorado is observed, with no temporal requirement.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has designated the wolf population in Colorado as “Experimental” which relaxes take prohibitions. As a federally listed species, there is a strict prohibition against regulated hunting and other forms of take."
Bringing Wolves Back to Colorado
Proposition 114, now state statute 33-2-105.8, passed on November 3, 2020.
Chapter 3 talks about the 50 wolves to be reintroduced over the 3-5 year period. The information is out there for people to read, not saying you're not looking and finding it. I've just heard so much hearsay from people that it makes it a misinformation highway and makes the hunting community look very ignorant on the issue.
It is in the plan put out by CPW, once recovered they will become non game. It’s on the website. In phase 3, there was supposed to be a phase 4 ( management by hunting) that was cut from the plan and any wolves that are deemed problem, by the state, not by citizens or ranchers who are dealing with them, will be killed for us by our overlordsWhat do you see in the final text of initiative 107 that states that? Seems like section (3)(a)(IV) establishes a means to delist. Now I'm not saying the goal posts won't move but I don't see anything supporting your statement?
Colorado Proposition 114, Gray Wolf Reintroduction Initiative (2020)
Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politicsballotpedia.org
They'll start creeping on the front range and takig pets eventually. However, scaring the unnarmed granolas on the walking trails or attacking some backcountry skiing bros on or off resorts won't change people's minds that voted for this. Ya'll in CO need to learn to "share the land" with the wolves now. LOL!
Thanks. I thought you meant the one that was voted in the ballot initiative.
A lion killed like 20+ dogs in a matter of a couple months last year, year dude smoked him while walking his dog and people were still angry at the guy. People have no freaking clue and are looneys here now…
They all have collars, and I'm sure the state will make an example out of anyone caught taking matters into their own hands.
Probably more trouble than if you killed a human being
Whaledriver
WKR
Anyone know when we can get the grizzly on a ballot?? Lets do this eco thing properly. Boulder County should be a good release area!
EXACTLY my point. Until it happens to their doodle (admittedly we own 2) or mini burmese mountain dog, they'll just say its part of living in CO.
The guides I hunted with in the Bob said the same thing about Grizz in MT. Nothing makes the front page faster than a poor cuddly grizz getting shot and killed by a hunter or hiker in self defense. Articles alwasy slanted in favor of the grizz and lamenting it's loss. A couple pages later there might be a truly tragic story of human lives lost.
Customweld
WKR
It's easy to think that, but in reality very rarely do you run into them, they give you long enough for a shot opportunity.
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