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Is advertising rifles capable of shooting accurately to 1000 yards or is he advertising that his rifle makes the hunter lethal to 1000 yards?He could be a great guy! But ask yourself this philosophical question…
Do you believe the ethos of “1000 yards out of the box”. is good for hunting overall?
I do not, and it has absolutely nothing to do with budget.
Is advertising rifles capable of shooting accurately to 1000 yards or is he advertising that his rifle makes the hunter lethal to 1000 yards?
But they do offer training classes to teach the skills and I believe he said many take those classes.If there's a bunch of disclaimers about being dependent on someone being able to read wind, understanding how atmospherics impact solutions and velocity, understanding that velocity may migrate over the life of a barrel, etc I sure haven't seen them so they sure aren't front and center. Comes off to me like they are selling a "1000 yard system" that does the work for ya.
IMO, the latter. Very much the latter.Is advertising rifles capable of shooting accurately to 1000 yards or is he advertising that his rifle makes the hunter lethal to 1000 yards?
Yep, their marketing schitck is clearly “buy this gun, go on a hunt and whack shit at 1000 yards!”If there's a bunch of disclaimers about being dependent on someone being able to read wind, understanding how atmospherics impact solutions and velocity, understanding that velocity may migrate over the life of a barrel, etc I sure haven't seen them so they sure aren't front and center. Comes off to me like they are selling a "1000 yard system" that does the work for ya.
WTF is 1000 yards "ready" anyway? Vs 800, 900, 1100, etc yards?
You ever watched one of their “Long Range Pusruit” shows? IMO, the intent of that trademarked (LOL!) message is abundantly clear. Grab the rifle and go afield to put that “guarantee” to work. Easy peezy.Thats from their website. Granted it does not say anything about wind and all that other stuff, but it does not say anything about hunting either. It reads as if the rifle is capable which i would bet it is.
- RIFLE ZEROED & READY
During testing, each rifle scope is zeroed for point of impact at 100 yards, ready for 1000 yards Out of the Box™!
Another member posting on a forum using a computer critisizing others for posting on a forum using a computer. And a WKR at that which means you have posted on this forum many times.Do you guys hunt and shoot or just sit around on a computer bitching about someone's marketing slogan? Serious question.
Cpl hundred rounds fired this morning at the range. 3 big game critters put in the freezer in the last 5 weeks. Nice try anyway…Do you guys hunt and shoot or just sit around on a computer bitching about someone's marketing slogan? Serious question.
I actually have not seen any of their videos. So would you say Form and others are irresponsible for saying the 223 tikka with a 77 TMK IS CAPABLE TO 500 yards. Somebody may read that and buy a tikka and think they can shoot to 500 yards, but they might not be capable.You ever watched one of their “Long Range Pusruit” shows? IMO, the intent of that trademarked (LOL!) message is abundantly clear. Grab the rifle and go afield to put that “guarantee” to work. Easy peezy.
Yeah, I’m sure the rifle is capable. But never one mention of also making sure that the nut behind the rifle is capable!
What does that have to do with posting daily bitching about someone else's business that is none of your business? If you don't see the difference I can't help you. Its not like I have 1435 posts....Another member posting on a forum using a computer critisizing others for posting on a forum using a computer. And a WKR at that which means you have posted on this forum many times.
No. Its just you bitching about people bitching. Yeah, thats a lot different.What does that have to do with posting daily bitching about someone else's business that is none of your business? If you don't see the difference I can't help you. Its not like I have 1435 posts....
Gotta make work bearable somehow.Do you guys hunt and shoot or just sit around on a computer bitching about someone's marketing slogan? Serious question.
That’s a whole other debate, and one I personally do not always agree with, but that’s beside the point. I also don’t think that discussion is really relevant here as Form would be the first one to preach the importance of field practice and shooting proficiency first. There is plenty of his written commentary supporting this fact.I actually have not seen any of their videos. So would you say Form and others are irresponsible for saying the 223 tikka with a 77 TMK IS CAPABLE TO 500 yards. Somebody may read that and buy a tikka and think they can shoot to 500 yards, but they might not be capable.
Just to be clear i dont think Form and others are irresponsible either, but i think Aaron preaches the same.That’s a whole other debate, and one I personally do not always agree with, but that’s beside the point. I also don’t think that discussion is really relevant here as Form would be the first one to preach the importance of field practice and shooting proficiency first. There is plenty of his written commentary supporting this fact.
If he does, I’d love to see/hear it.Just to be clear i dont think Form and others are irresponsible either, but i think Aaron preaches the same.
Aaron literally discusses how long they've been offering training and teaching to their customers. They've been at it I'd bet longer than "Form" has been a presence on the web.as Form would be the first one to preach the importance of field practice and shooting proficiency first. There is plenty of his written commentary supporting this fact.
He talks about it a lot on his podcast. Especially some older ones. He is not on the newer ones as much.If he does, I’d love to see/hear it.