AK Sheep, Population Observations

[Thunder]

I hate to even say it but Every time you say something intelligent you have to turn around and reck it.
If you want to be taken seriously you have to
Model adult behavior.
“It’s just the internet “isn’t a good excuse for being a jerk.
Be nice

Gosh I was hoping to be taken seriously on a hunting forum. After all this is where the issues get addressed and fixed. The hunting forum platform is at the forefront of conservation and getting regulations changed. I'm sitting here self reflecting how you fullcry (fitting name) could help me be taken seriously on a platform such as this. I apologize to you and anyone else I offended. If you send me a PM I'll write you each an individual apology in a fancy font of your choosing. If there is no preference I'm thinking edwardian script. That's some fancy stuff.

I'm apologize for derailing the thread. Now lets get back to how RHWP limiting a few new non res in 19c is going to fix our sheep problem.

Respectfully,

 

[Fullcry]

Lol
See you did it again.
Half of your post was very thought full and respective.
I guess we all learn at a different pace.
Respectfully

 

[Sourdough]

After all this is where the issues get addressed and fixed. The hunting forum platform is at the forefront of conservation and getting regulations changed.

So......"Before Internet forums" there was nothing, no conservation, no game management, no habitat protection and enhancement.

I would say the single biggest negative impact on Alaska animals that are hunted, has overwhelmingly been the internet, and especially internet hunting forums.

 

[Thunder]

So......"Before Internet forums" there was nothing, no conservation, no game management, no habitat protection and enhancement.

I would say the single biggest negative impact on Alaska animals that are hunted, has overwhelmingly been the internet, and especially internet hunting forums.

Sarcasm

 

[Sourdough]

Sarcasm

Think of it as clarification of your flawed post. This forum does "NOT" change regulations. What this and other internet forums offer is is glorification, and access to others doing the work of hunting. If the internet went dark, the number of hunters would drop drastically. The harvest would drop drastically.

 

[Thunder]

Think of it as clarification of your flawed post. This forum does "NOT" change regulations. What this and other internet forums offer is is glorification, and access to others doing the work of hunting. If the internet went dark, the number of hunters would drop drastically. The harvest would drop drastically.

Damn you have it all figured out. Nothing gets by you!

You should start the revolution! Go dark! For conservation!

 

[Sourdough]

You should start the revolution! Go dark! For conservation!

Think about it.......where do hunters do their "scouting" as to where the trophy animal they desire is most probable.

Where do they go for advise on clothing, firearms, binoculars, spotting scope, bullet suggestions, ranger finder advise, hunting method for desired trophy, how to cape and process, what size game bags and how many, who to contact to take them to the animal so they can shoot it, how should photos be posed so trophy looks huge, and they look manly, what hotel, ground transportation, where to eat near the airport, what color camo pattern, what boots, what socks, what sleeping bag, what gloves, etc. Then they get to brag "It was a Do it Myself" hunt, "Self guided".

 

[Fullcry]

Dang sourdough I’m gonna kinda disagree with you.
While your points are correct on guys using the internet, if the internet were to “Go Dark”.
The old days are over.Word is out.
And even though guys make lots of good points
In this thread.
You guys don’t get it…. You can make all these tweaks to the rules to try to protect your “turf”
That you want.
But do you realize how many young people are moving to ALASKA simply to hunt?
With Sheep hunts pushing $25,000
Moose hunts $25,000
Goat and Caribou $10,000 plus
Even the DIY guys can hardly get a air taxi unless they wait several years out.
The young people are simply priced out! And
That’s just to go 1 time.
In the next 5-10 years your not even going to recognize the system we have now.
There will simply be too many people.
Can you blame them for moving up here?

 

[Sourdough]

Can you blame them for moving up here?

I don't fault anyone for moving to Alaska. The internet and especially forums, have glorified the "END RESULT" part of hunting, while simplifying or totally eliminating the essence of hunting.

In a society that has for more then a hundred years been devoid of a "public" Right of Passage" into Manhood, the internet has blossomed.

 

[Thunder]

I don't fault anyone for moving to Alaska. The internet and especially forums, have glorified the "END RESULT" part of hunting, while simplifying or totally eliminating the essence of hunting.

In a society that has for more then a hundred years been devoid of a "public" Right of Passage" into Manhood, the internet has blossomed.

It’s all making sense now. You ruin every forum you go to. I thought it was just because you’re a lonely old fool but it’s for the good of Alaska and the wildlife. Well played agl4now well played!

 

[Sourdough]

It’s all making sense now. You ruin every forum you go to. I thought it was just because you’re a lonely old fool but it’s for the good of Alaska and the wildlife. Well played agl4now well played!

Maybe you could do some basic research on the "History" of Forums, the history goes back thousands of years. Just because someone voices an opinion you dislike, does not validate your assertion they have ruined the forum.

 

[Thunder]

Maybe you could do some basic research on the "History" of Forums, the history goes back thousands of years. Just because someone voices an opinion you dislike, does not validate your assertion they have ruined the forum.

Now there you go again spouting off about nothing. Who’s to say I disagree with your opinion?

Go read another book about hunting in Alaska so you can tell us another story oh great one!

 

[VernAK]

DS204 DCUA motorized access hunt:
65 tags...59 reported....39 hunted.....7 rams harvested.....avg age 7 years

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

DS204 DCUA motorized access hunt:
65 tags...59 reported....39 hunted.....7 rams harvested.....avg age 7 years

Those are some sad and disturbing numbers. Thanks Vern.

 

[Arctic_Beaver]

A little sneak preview on the Draw Supplement. I picked up the 2022-2023 at DF&G's office in town today. For the TMA, DS102 will have 10 permits available. There is no DS103. They combined them both as one for the whole season. There is language added that the intent is to maintain "trophy quality rams" not to necessarily increase the population though. That however is quite the reduction to the number of permits which were available this year.

I did also notice a reduction in some of the Chugach permits which will be made available too.

 

[Nick Muche]

Sounds to me like if you want a ram you’ll need strap on your boots and go get one…

 

[VernAK]

A little sneak preview on the Draw Supplement. I picked up the 2022-2023 at DF&G's office in town today. For the TMA, DS102 will have 10 permits available. There is no DS103. They combined them both as one for the whole season. There is language added that the intent is to maintain "trophy quality rams" not to necessarily increase the population though. That however is quite the reduction to the number of permits which were available this year.

I did also notice a reduction in some of the Chugach permits which will be made available too.

TMA had 60 tags + Gov Tag.....9 sheep harvested.

DS206....Mt Harper had 4 tags.....3 hunters....1 sheep at 11 years old

DS 203...DCUA walk-in.....65 tags....61 reporting....44 hunted....12 rams with average age 8.5 years.

 

[wantj43]

Listened a podcast by Kaleb Martin that featured sheep research biologists. Presented an excellent overview of the current sheep situation. Well worth hearing the update.

 

[schmalzy]

Listened a podcast by Kaleb Martin that featured sheep research biologists. Presented an excellent overview of the current sheep situation. Well worth hearing the update.

Have a link or good place to find it? iTunes?


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[wantj43]

https://soundcloud.com/caleb-martin-552317481%2Fepisode-27-dall-sheep-101-part-1-mixdown%2Fs-u4h0dPc9WKj