.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[hunterjmj]

Lotta good entertainment in this thread for sure!

I promise you’ll be thrilled with you he value a .223 brings to your riflemanship journey. You’ll shoot it exponentially more than any other centerfire rifle you own. Plus, with correct bullet selection, there is no compromise in terminal performance.

I have zero doubts about your setup. I've slowly built a rem 700 300wm over the years and I love that rifle. Killed many animals with it using the 215 Berger and I just know my rifle. That said, I'd love to add a .223 to the mix now that i've read this. Like many, I grew up being taught bigger is better even though I know better. I still love the 30 cals, magnums, etc. Calibers, bullets, reloading and all that is very fascinating to learn and will be a lifelong endeavor. I appreciate this thread and the things it's made me think about. Good stuff!

 

[hunterjmj]

I read a lot of pages but not all. Are there any elk pics taken with this setup?

 

[Tartan]

I read a lot of pages but not all. Are there any elk pics taken with this setup?

hasn't been updated in 80 pages or so, but here's a summary of this thread with links to the posts about elk

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

just looking for a tikka 223? He is looking for a LH. Little hard to come by.

rokslide.com

 

[hunterjmj]

hasn't been updated in 80 pages or so, but here's a summary of this thread with links to the posts about elk

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

just looking for a tikka 223? He is looking for a LH. Little hard to come by.

rokslide.com

Sweet. Thanks!

 

[hunterjmj]

hasn't been updated in 80 pages or so, but here's a summary of this thread with links to the posts about elk

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

just looking for a tikka 223? He is looking for a LH. Little hard to come by.

rokslide.com

Way cool. For whatever reason I always thought of a .223 as a coyote pickup packing gun. Won't happen now but I'm definitely going to pick up a .223.

 

[307]

The 77gr TMK is the king for .224 caliber, the 130gr TMK is similar for the .264? Does this apply to 6.5 cm and something like the 6.5 PRC equally?

What's the bullet recommendation for situations where lead isn't allowed?

 

[ElPollo]

The 77gr TMK is the king for .224 caliber, the 130gr TMK is similar for the .264? Does this apply to 6.5 cm and something like the 6.5 PRC equally?

What's the bullet recommendation for situations where lead isn't allowed?

Yes on the 130 TMK.

On the nonlead, I have not personally used this one, but its what I would try if I had to go back to them.

6.5 Creedmoor/260 for Deer, Elk, and whatever else.....

Are any of the cup and core traditional deer factory ammo worth a dang in 6.5 cm? Look to set up a new rifle, something 0-300 that's a little bit more cost effective than eldm. The one deer I shoot with bondstrikes barely left any blood. American whitetail? Fusion? I suppose if I've had success...

rokslide.com

 

[swavescatter]

How many folks have been checked for lead bullets while hunting?

How do they check for that?

You don't often get your tags checked either, but obviously poaching is illegal and unethical.

Follow local hunting laws. End of story.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

maybe ya'll should ask for a poachers subforum. in the mean time, let's keep the conversations here centered on legal hunting methods.

 

[atmat]

maybe ya'll should ask for a poachers subforum. in the mean time, let's keep the conversations here centered on legal hunting methods.

Yeah I can’t believe it’s even a conversation. The general public is already skeptical of hunting and gun ownership without folks saying “hmm, but could we get away with it?”

 

[JCMCUBIC]

....

What's the bullet recommendation for situations where lead isn't allowed?

I've had good results on deer with the 62 TTSX and TSX in .223/.223AI. I much prefer the TTSX to the TSX. Those are the only non-lead I've used. After a fair bit of experience with them, I wouldn't leave lead for them unless legally required.

 

[xsn10s]

Hmm I came late to the show so I don't know all the details. I don't poach, and I don't hunt where there are lead restrictions. My guess is wildmills and solar plants kill far more than hunters using lead bullets. Now back to the original program. I want a bolt .223 lol.

 

[Castle Rock]

You don't often get your tags checked either, but obviously poaching is illegal and unethical.

Follow local hunting laws. End of story.

Wear a mask, comply, believe the science

 

[The Guide]

How many folks have been checked for lead bullets while hunting?

How do they check for that?

I imagine it would be similar to the way they check people waterfowl hunting for nontoxic shot. Can not have any lead projectiles on your person or in the firearm while in the field but it can be in your vehicle. Most approved nonlead bullets are pretty easy to spot. Might ask you see the ammo on your person or in the gun, ask you the brand/name of the bullet, and then see if it matches their profile type. Might need to show them the box. Not sure about handloads though.

Jay

 

[atmat]

Wear a mask, comply, believe the science

This seems totally relevant to the conversation surrounding hunting laws and poaching. Strong contribution.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

i've seen non-toxic waterfowl loads checked with a magnet, but that was before TSS and bismuth were are prevalent.

lead-free bullets are pretty easily identifiable with a minimal amount of LE training.

 

[hunterjmj]

So this thread has got my wheels turning the last couple of days. The rifle I've been hunting with the last 6-7 years is a Rem 700 in 300WM. I put a Timney trigger in it, Seekins muzzle brake and a bedded McMillan game scout. My thought is a Remington 700 SA set up identical with exception of a brake. The only concern I would have is factory barrel twist. They look to be 1:12. To shoot those 77's or similar I'm guessing I'll need to be 1:9?

 

[hunterjmj]

1:8 is where you wanna be
1:9 is goona be a big maybe.
1:12 aint goona happen

Ok, I'd have a barrel put on it. Looks like I could get the rifle for around $500.

 

[hunterjmj]

1:8 then

We have a great smith local here who's done some work for me that does a great job.

 

[wind gypsy]

i'd go 7.5" twist iffn starting from scratch with a new barrel.