Wyoming’s Wilderness Area Nonresident Restrictions

[Jethro]

OP, why even buy 5 points if WY is such a rip off? You come across as knowing very little about the state and it’s draw processes.

 

[menhaden_man]

And this is how you know you've got an easterner who doesn't understand the first thing about western game management or the bigger picture of good heard health = good hunting. Coming from MT, I can only dream of the day we get some of those whiny crybaby G&F guys up here to create some good management in this state. WY game management is a dream compared to most, and yes, it's funded by the public. So when there's shortages, they notice and take action.

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I hunt WY maybe every other year for 15 years and have been very pleased with G&F, the hunt quality, and hospitality of the people there. A million times better than the state where I’ve lived since 2007 (Washington).

 

[elkhuntrr75]

This again??? I hunt Wyoming and Idaho and live in Nebraska, I've hunted Colorado as well but choose not to anymore.

For the quality of hunt Wyoming provides in non wilderness units, with limited pressure. . . They can tell me I have to hire a guide, ride a Shetland pony, and have a clown with me everywhere I go.

I have hunted a unit several times. That most people eliminate in the first 5 min of research, and I've see 330-340ish bulls as well as many in the 290-310 range.

If those bulls aren't big enough for you, you better start saving up you $. Every year in WY some Giants get killed in plain Jane units. Stop whining and go hunt!

What you are failing to realize is that it takes probably twice as many points to draw the plain Jane non wilderness units because all the nonresident hunters are applying for them. I have been fortunate to have hunted some really good land where I live and drawn some really good tags in other states and once you have experienced that then marginal units just don’t offer the same experience. That’s what most of us wants. To hunt the best land we can year after year without breaking the bank.


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[come2elmo]

Somebody please start a BHA “insert heartache here” thread STAT!

 

[Jake Larsen]

What you are failing to realize is that it takes probably twice as many points to draw the plain Jane non wilderness units because all the nonresident hunters are applying for them. I have been fortunate to have drawn some really good land where I live and drawn some really good tags in other states and once you have experienced that then marginal units just don’t offer the same experience. That’s what most of us wants. To hunt the best land we can year after year.


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My guy, if you want to hunt premier western units year after year, you had better be extremely rich, or move here. Hell even when you're here, you don't get to have the cream every year. End of story

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[String&stick]

What you are failing to realize is that it takes probably twice as many points to draw the plain Jane non wilderness units because all the nonresident hunters are applying for them. I have been fortunate to have hunted some really good land where I live and drawn some really good tags in other states and once you have experienced that then marginal units just don’t offer the same experience. That’s what most of us wants. To hunt the best land we can year after year without breaking the bank.


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What you are failing to realize is if you are getting into quality elk in what is perceived as a "marginal" unit. . . The state must be doing a pretty damn good job of managing both the game animals and the hunting pressure! I know some wilderness units where you see as many people as elk. Don't get hung up on it

 

[elkhuntrr75]

My guy, if you want to hunt premier western units year after year, you had better be extremely rich, or move here. Hell even when you're here, you don't get to have the cream every year. End of story

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Na you don’t have to be rich just play the game and if WY didn’t have this stupid law I would rank it up there with AZ.


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[Jake Larsen]

Na you don’t have to be rich just play the game and if WY didn’t have this stupid law I would rank it up there with AZ.


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So what I'm hearing is this: you're being offered really quality hunts at a really reasonable price, but it just ain't good enough for you. You gotta have the best of the best, at a lower price. You want your cake and eat it too.

You don't live out here. You might want to listen for a minute to the people who do, and put tons of time year round into this. You just can't have it all. Even as residents of these awesome states, we don't get it all. You count your blessings, quit whining and go hunt hard. There's amazing opportunities to be had. And the people who are actually here, hunting these areas, are telling you, the management is amazing. WY is creating amazing hunting opportunities for everybody. Why do you think you can do it better?

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[elkhuntrr75]

So what I'm hearing is this: you're being offered really quality hunts at a really reasonable price, but it just ain't good enough for you. You gotta have the best of the best, at a lower price. You want your cake and eat it too.

You don't live out here. You might want to listen for a minute to the people who do, and put tons of time year round into this. You just can't have it all. Even as residents of these awesome states, we don't get it all. You count your blessings, quit whining and go hunt hard. There's amazing opportunities to be had. And the people who are actually here, hunting these areas, are telling you, the management is amazing. WY is creating amazing hunting opportunities for everybody. Why do you think you can do it better?

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To hunt good units you have to put in in multiple states. I don’t spend ridiculous money on guided private land hunts I just accumulate points in multiple states for multiple species for myself and my family and go on 2-3 hunts a year. Don’t hate me because I do my research and get lucky from time to time.


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[elkhuntrr75]

I knew that I wasn’t going to make any friends with this post but if you look at the draw odds, the tag prices and most of all the unit maps with all the so called wilderness blocked out areas you would be mad too.


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[elkhuntrr75]

I hunt WY maybe every other year for 15 years and have been very pleased with G&F, the hunt quality, and hospitality of the people there. A million times better than the state where I’ve lived since 2007 (Washington).

Menhaden you should really consider CA. It is almost as good as WA and much closer to you than WY. Suckass


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[idahohikker]

What you are failing to realize is that it takes probably twice as many points to draw the plain Jane non wilderness units because all the nonresident hunters are applying for them.
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This is a personal all-time favorite Rokslide post. "It takes probably twice as many points" to draw non wilderness units. Man, get GoHunt or read the Wyoming draw reports. It seems clear you haven't researched.

You'll find there are units that you can apply for that don't have any wilderness and don't require max points.

 

[idahohikker]

Menhaden you should really consider CA. It is almost as good as WA and much closer to you than WY. Suckass


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The thing that's hilarious about this is you can attack random people you don't like or you can develop a relationship with them and benefit each other. I had some great chats with menhaden man this year about places I've hunted in Idaho and places he's hunted in Wyoming. I thought it was a win-win. We also disagreed about a topic on here--and this may be a shocker--we respectfully shared our points and moved on peacefully.

The hammer approach brings back more hammers. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

 

[PathFinder]

I think the only legitimate gripe coming from this thread is "Outfitter Welfare." In short, the creation of special rules to make it easier for outfitters to book hunts and up their prices. Nobody deserves welfare.
As has been mentioned, Wyoming isn't the only state engaging in this sort of despicable practice. Utah does its fair share, as does Alaska. Nevada has a big outfitter tag program too.
This practice is immoral and repulsive. On private land, they should be able to do and charge whatever they want but there shouldn't be any outfitter welfare programs for public land tags. No special outfitter tags, and no idiotic rules to protect them from hunters electing not to hire them to hold their hand and wipe their rear.
I understand some big money comes in from some of these kinds of hunts. It's when those tags are offered exclusively through outfitters that the program goes astray. The money can still come without mandating that outfitters get special privileges.


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[elkhuntrr75]

Weatherby moved their entire operation to wyoming to hunt, that's saying something.

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And they haven’t come up with anything innovative since the Mark V but that was way before my time.


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[elkhuntrr75]

I think the only legitimate gripe coming from this thread is "Outfitter Welfare." In short, the creation of special rules to make it easier for outfitters to book hunts and up their prices. Nobody deserves welfare.
As has been mentioned, Wyoming isn't the only state engaging in this sort of despicable practice. Utah does its fair share, as does Alaska. Nevada has a big outfitter tag program too.
This practice is immoral and repulsive. On private land, they should be able to do and charge whatever they want but there shouldn't be any outfitter welfare programs for public land tags. No special outfitter tags, and no idiotic rules to protect them from hunters electing not to hire them to hold their hand and wipe their rear.
I understand some big money comes in from some of these kinds of hunts. It's when those tags are offered exclusively through outfitters that the program goes astray. The money can still come without mandating that outfitters get special privileges.


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And it’s just a matter of time before we all get priced out of these hunts and are left with the gar holes.

A drop in draw odds= a higher tag end cost when the tag is finally drawn.

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[elkhuntrr75]

The thing that's hilarious about this is you can attack random people you don't like or you can develop a relationship with them and benefit each other. I had some great chats with menhaden man this year about places I've hunted in Idaho and places he's hunted in Wyoming. I thought it was a win-win. We also disagreed about a topic on here--and this may be a shocker--we respectfully shared our points and moved on peacefully.

The hammer approach brings back more hammers. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Your right I apologize menhaden.


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[Montana Slim]

What you are failing to realize is that it takes probably twice as many points to draw the plain Jane non wilderness units because all the nonresident hunters are applying for them. I have been fortunate to have hunted some really good land where I live and drawn some really good tags in other states and once you have experienced that then marginal units just don’t offer the same experience. That’s what most of us wants. To hunt the best land we can year after year without breaking the bank.


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...and this thread should just end here.
Enough said.

Really, the nerve of Wyoming looking out for its residents, as well as the resource at the same time is unbelievable. You are not owed anything - talk about millenials? Sheeesh

 

[Fatcamp]

Op should hunt elk in SD.

 

[4rcgoat]

While the rules here in Wyoming may not be "fair", lets not forget that life isnt exactly "fair" for everyone............if your lucky enough to be in the mountains, your lucky enough.