Wyoming Passes 90/10: The Worst Article You’ll Read This Year

[wapitibob]

ODFW started farming out their draw two years ago. That's how we got the new reports. WY does their draw in house.

 

[Blktailhtr]

so now that they are in line with other states for allocation are they going to charge $10 for a point like those other states do?

 

[Muley Buck]

so now that they are in line with other states for allocation are they going to charge $10 for a point like those other states do?

Points may be more expensive, but you don't have to buy a $150 +or- license first in order to get them.

 

[golfbum]

Points may be more expensive, but you don't have to buy a $150 +or- license first in order to get them.

Wyoming is by far the most expensive state I apply for…..without having to buy a license.
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[street]

Thanks for posting the article. Just scanned through it. Here is my takeaway, it’s obvious that different people have different definitions of successful. The article clearly states the system is working, though every year more people jump in and odds get lower. To me, that means the system is not working.

@Bobbyboe The data shows that despite more applicants each year, the draw odds distribution across bonus points does not reflect that. That is the indication that the system is at least not performing poorly. There is no system that wouldn't reduce odds with more people jumping in.

 

[Laramie]

@Bobbyboe The data shows that despite more applicants each year, the draw odds distribution across bonus points does not reflect that. That is the indication that the system is at least not performing poorly. There is no system that wouldn't reduce odds with more people jumping in.

Other than a straight preference point system.

 

[street]

Other than a straight preference point system.

You are right. Not sure I would want that system for the OIL species though.

 

[prm]

Just remember, we need to recruit more hunters!



I’m out!

 

[slick]

You guys are also forgetting that they have the highest success percentage of any general tag in the west.

To the folks that are comparing a $10 OR point vs $50 WY point... be everyones guest and only apply in OR.

 

[Laramie]

You are right. Not sure I would want that system for the OIL species though.

Not many would... unless they had been buying points for many years and were almost in a position to draw.

 

[ScottR_EHJ]

@Bobbyboe The data shows that despite more applicants each year, the draw odds distribution across bonus points does not reflect that. That is the indication that the system is at least not performing poorly. There is no system that wouldn't reduce odds with more people jumping in.

I have looked at literally every hunt group in Nevada and every one of them is a bell shaped curve on successful applicants distribution. Mathematically it makes total sense too, basically as the middle is cut out there are fewer people with the higher points stuck in the system. At the bottom there are always a few lucky ones but not many.

Adding more people to the system would simply raise the whole bell curve across the board.

 

[Bighorner]

I'm sure most of the NR are aware the number of people in their pool as far as points go? When someone says they are about to draw how close are you? Just curious. I know as a resident it would take over 50 years to burn through all the point holders ahead of me at 8-9 points. That's assuming the only way to leave the pool is by drawing.

 

[street]

I have looked at literally every hunt group in Nevada and every one of them is a bell shaped curve on successful applicants distribution. Mathematically it makes total sense too, basically as the middle is cut out there are fewer people with the higher points stuck in the system. At the bottom there are always a few lucky ones but not many.

Adding more people to the system would simply raise the whole bell curve across the board.

I haven't looked at the NV data but I'm with you based on how their bonus point system works. The data I referenced is for CO, which is fundamentally different than NV; the CO distributions are not Gaussian.

 

[Laramie]

I'm sure most of the NR are aware the number of people in their pool as far as points go? When someone says they are about to draw how close are you? Just curious. I know as a resident it would take over 50 years to burn through all the point holders ahead of me at 8-9 points. That's assuming the only way to leave the pool is by drawing.

It depends on how many actually apply. I have never chased the top areas. I honestly could care less if my tag was in 38 or the worst area of the state. That said, I have been within .5-2 points for several years running. I was in a successful point class one year but was one of the unlucky guys who didn't draw. I just want to hunt a Shiras moose and don't really care if he is 35" or 55". I honestly had made up my mind to get a cow tag right before they doubled the tag price so decided to wait to see what the increase did to the applicant pool.

 

[Wyobohunter]

Nope, unless you live there they want you out, next they’ll probably propose moving the Interstate out of WY to keep others out or put a NR toll on it, why not make NR pay for their roads.

That’s a great idea! Move I-80 to Colorado! I’m starting a committee.

 

[LostArra]

That’s a great idea! Move I-80 to Colorado! I’m starting a committee.

Great idea but they would prefer to move it the other way

Bill Sniffin: An Alternate I-80 Could Save National Economy $1 Million A Day If Road Stays Open

Bill Sniffin writes: So why not build an Interstate 80 alternate route on the current route of US30? It would be good news for national economy.

cowboystatedaily.com

 

[Wyobohunter]

Great idea but they would prefer to move it the other way

Bill Sniffin: An Alternate I-80 Could Save National Economy $1 Million A Day If Road Stays Open

Bill Sniffin writes: So why not build an Interstate 80 alternate route on the current route of US30? It would be good news for national economy.

cowboystatedaily.com

Sure, wherever is elsewhere is fine by me. I just don’t get the sniveling about 90/10. If you are dead set on hunting Wyoming every year, get a job here, move here, pay taxes here. Otherwise enjoy your Piggly Wiggly or whatever it is you have where you live now.


And really, I only mention moving here because I can’t stop you. That’s my main gripe about WY… all the non me’s that are here.

 

[deadwolf]

It’s painful to listen to the “don’t come here’s” and the “this state is already full” crowd…as stated in an earlier reply by Robby, it’s likely you have a lot more in common with the non residents coming to hunt in your state than you might realize. And the idea that “they” are ruining it, is almost laughable. Also, unless you are indigenous to an area, you have no more real claim to a place than anyone else, at some point in time you or one of your relatives migrated there as well. When you’ve lived in a state for ten years and lay claim to it like you were the first one to set foot there you lose any shred of credibility with most folks. And save me the “my family’s been here for 100 years” nonsense. This post isn’t directed at any one person in particular, but these kind of statements get me frustrated. It certainly isn’t productive in any manner.


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[LostArra]

Wyobohunter>>

Whoa!
Easy there hoss! Maybe your reply was meant for someone else but I'm sure not sniveling about Wyoming's tag allocations.

I used to live there but have hunted Wyo for many years as a non resident and I'll figure out a way to continue hunting there regardless of allocation changes.

Piggly Wiggly????

 

[LostArra]

Sure, wherever is elsewhere is fine by me. I just don’t get the sniveling about 90/10. If you are dead set on hunting Wyoming every year, get a job here, move here, pay taxes here. Otherwise enjoy your Piggly Wiggly or whatever it is you have where you live now.


And really, I only mention moving here because I can’t stop you. That’s my main gripe about WY… all the non me’s that are here.

See post above