Wyoming Passes 90/10: The Worst Article You’ll Read This Year

[Wyobohunter]

Elk next?

 

[BBob]

Thing is about lawyers, it’s their opinion, plenty lose on each side all the time, states included. I bet it would end up in a settlement and not go to court In the end, say $35 million the state pays back.

So in order for this lawsuit to work I'd suppose you'd need every unit to have enough point creep to be unobtainable in the draw with preference points. Has it reached that level yet or are just some units point creep so bad you can't catch it? If there are any units with low enough preference points to still draw then how could you make the case that preference points are are a totally worthless commodity being foisted upon the unsuspecting hunter?

BTW I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just pondering the subject is all

 

[Gutshot007]

It seem's the same ones telling nonresident diy hunters to put up or shut up . You have to pay to play. Just send cash. They're the first to complain when some wealthy guy unloads his house in California for truckloads of cash and starts buying everything up in mountain states making the cost of living skyrocket for most locals to the point you are pushed out of the housing / land market.

 

[tdhanses]

So in order for this lawsuit to work I'd suppose you'd need every unit to have enough point creep to be unobtainable in the draw with preference points. Has it reached that level yet or are just some units point creep so bad you can't catch it? If there are any units with low enough preference points to draw then how could you make the case that preference points are are a totally worthless commodity being foisted upon the unsuspecting hunter?

BTW I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just pondering the subject is all

For the big 5 it is unobtainable now for all but .001% of pt holders for the next 50 years, complete guess on the percentage but it’s probably close.

 

[blakees307]

I am a Wyoming resident and I don't like this. I think its messed up. I hate seeing opportunities go away and its a slippery slope. Once one thing goes away its a lot easier to take the resident opportunity away next. And besides, even though I have better odds and getting my sheep and goat tag, its hardly better odds at all and will most likely result in increased tag costs on my end.

 

[BBob]

It seem's the same ones telling nonresident diy hunters to put up or shut up . You have to pay to play. Just send cash. They're the first to complain when some wealthy guy unloads his house in California for truckloads of cash and starts buying everything up in mountain states making the cost of living skyrocket for most locals to the point you are pushed out of the housing / land market.

I'm guilty of that, I am that guy. It's a viscous unfair circle, seriously!

 

[BBob]

I am a Wyoming resident and I don't like this. I think its messed up. I hate seeing opportunities go away and its a slippery slope. Once one thing goes away its a lot easier to take the resident opportunity away next. And besides, even though I have better odds and getting my sheep and goat tag, its hardly better odds at all and will most likely result in increased tag costs on my end.

If it turns out like it was here it'll initially help get the tags to residents and make lots of them feel better. If WYO goes like some of the rest of us with an ever increasing population the demand will continue to rise and the gains you made with 90/10 will eventually become moot and your draw odds will continue to plummet.

 

[dieselchessy]

Does Buzz have a brother in Idaho?

I can see a lawsuit. After all someone sued and won cause McDonalds served them hot coffee.

 

[Fatcamp]

Enjoy all your new retired residents, Wyoming. I'm on my way shortly.

 

[BlueHeeler42]

It seem's the same ones telling nonresident diy hunters to put up or shut up . You have to pay to play. Just send cash. They're the first to complain when some wealthy guy unloads his house in California for truckloads of cash and starts buying everything up in mountain states making the cost of living skyrocket for most locals to the point you are pushed out of the housing / land market.

That’s what I was thinking. I’m sure it’s not a 100% overlap, but I’d bet that a decent portion of the people who want reduced non-resident hunters are also complaining about all of the transplants moving in.

 

[Rich M]

I will never understand why outfitters are protected so much. And why states cater to them to protect their businesses.

Outfitters lease property and access from the big landowners. So its just the rich getting more money, thats all. Nothing to see here.

 

[Steve O]

Did you just watch Erin Brockovich?

I’m screwed with my sheep points but that one did make me lol.

 

[stonewall]

 

[CJ19]

Why am i not surprised that wyo BHA leadership is involved in screwing DIY public land hunters while asking for their money.

 

[MallardSX2]

I definitely see a case for class action, if it loses ok but let the state defend it’s decisions and see if this falls in their favor, be very interesting to see which big firm wants innon a possible $50 million suit with thousands to jump on board.

I hope the most bloodthirsty lawyer in the country takes the case and files a class action lawsuit and will bankrupt the WG&F for this fraudulent ponzi scheme. Bunch of damn crooks is all they are.

 

[Sccritterkiller]

Next year's elk draw will be interesting, hopefully I will just be watching..gonna see a lot of point holders come off the bench and cash out before they go 90/10. It will probably take at least 8pts to draw gen tag.

 

[stonewall]

Pretty sure WGF is in that list somewhere…

 

[roadrunner]

Result of the taulman/uso lawsuit suing under dormant commerce clause that you referenced. That ship has sailed.

Suing a state for discriminating against nr hunting or allocations is going nowhere.

Wrong assumption Homeslice. You're confusing litigation with a favorable decision, or a court win. Litigation is the process followed for legal proceedings in court, to dumb it down for you, filing a lawsuit with the process of it going to court.

A lawsuit can always be filed.

You said case law shows. Up until recently, there was no case law in this regard except the decision that impacted NM for decades. That was the precedent. That was the lawsuit. That was the decision.

Your comment says no lawsuit can be filed. Oh yes, Homeslice, a lawsuit can always be filed...

 

[MallardSX2]

Why am i not surprised that wyo BHA leadership is involved in screwing DIY public land hunters while asking for their money.

Well, you shouldn't be surprised. A "BHA leadership member" and a member of this forum has been beating this drum for years on every forum he can get his fat little fingers on. lol

 

[Billy Goat]

It's pretty striking the parallels between private land holders around blm land, and residents vs non-residents.

Exact same attitudes.