Wyoming Passes 90/10: The Worst Article You’ll Read This Year

[golfbum]

It’s the bait and switch that gets to me…..I’m all for more resident opportunities but allow Non Residents to sell points back if they want to. Their will be a lot of moose units (don’t have sheep points but imagine it’s even worse) that won’t have an available non resident tag. When I ponied up $50, then $100, and finally $150 for 20 years it was to eventually hunt moose in a few of the areas that probably won’t even have a Tag available now…..

Just my opinion and frustration…..

 

[sneaky]

Good job Wyoming. I'm hoping for 95:5 in Idaho and $500 big game resident tags. This is the way forward. Resident big game tags prices are a joke. I would easily pay $1,000 every year for an OTC elk tag in my own state. Residents value the resources in the states they live in. If non-residents want to play, pay 10x the price and have
BTW, I participate in my state's F&G commission. I suggest you do the same.

We know that ain't gonna happen because people raise cain when license prices go up $5. They'd burn the Capitol down in Boise for $500 or $1000 tags. You may be for it, but 99% of Idaho hunters would lose their minds.

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[Rob5589]

Good job Wyoming. I'm hoping for 95:5 in Idaho and $500 big game resident tags. This is the way forward. Resident big game tags prices are a joke. I would easily pay $1,000 every year for an OTC elk tag in my own state. Residents value the resources in the states they live in. If non-residents want to play, pay 10x the price and have <1% draw odds. Don't like it? Move west and figure it out like the rest of us. Or stay home and hunt the big game in your state, if you have any.

BTW, I participate in my state's F&G commission. I suggest you do the same.

Move west? Are you absolutely sure you want more people moving into Idaho? Idaho could go 99:1, if that's what they want. Their state, their rules. But I think you're an outlier being willing to pay 1k for a resident elk tag.

 

[CoStick]

It’s the bait and switch that gets to me…..I’m all for more resident opportunities but allow Non Residents to sell points back if they want to. Their will be a lot of moose units (don’t have sheep points but imagine it’s even worse) that won’t have an available non resident tag. When I ponied up $50, then $100, and finally $150 for 20 years it was to eventually hunt moose in a few of the areas that probably won’t even have a Tag available now…..

Just my opinion and frustration…..

I think WY does open itself up to litigation. They solicit people to purchase point, only state the proactively reaches out to me to purchase them.

 

[wind gypsy]

I think they are already late to the party. Several states already have 90/10 allocation. I’m surprised they limited it to only those species.

Maybe in the M/S/G tags. I don't think they are late to the party on the elk/deer/antelope though as the R to NR opportunity disparity is already greater than anywhere else in the lower 48 even if residents want to focus on % metrics to make themselves feel better about wanting more.

A NR already hunts mule deer OTC where it takes a NR 8 years to draw and elk where it takes a NR 4 years. In addition to that, there are giant swaths of federal land a NR cant even hunt without paying an outfitter or having connections once they actually draw a tag. I don't begrudge WY residents for wanting more but they already got the best gig in the west (lower 48) as far as resident big game perks go.

Honestly, the talk of outfitter tags or transferrable landowner tags gets my ear perked up most. But I don't have decades of dreams and thousands of dollars invested in now worthless M/S/G points either.

 

[BuzzH]

I think WY does open itself up to litigation. They solicit people to purchase point, only state the proactively reaches out to me to purchase them.

Not a chance of litigation. Case law and reaffirmed via federal law that states have the absolute right to discriminate against nrs any way they choose.

 

[dreamingbig]

Sounds like the Wyoming Game & Fish department is going to have a huge drop in income. All those non-resident dollars will be viewed as a waste of money by non-resident applicants going forward under these new draw odds so why even apply.

They are going to increase non resident tag fees to make up for the lost revenue.


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[displacedtexan]

Good job Wyoming. I'm hoping for 95:5 in Idaho and $500 big game resident tags. This is the way forward. Resident big game tags prices are a joke. I would easily pay $1,000 every year for an OTC elk tag in my own state. Residents value the resources in the states they live in. If non-residents want to play, pay 10x the price and have <1% draw odds. Don't like it? Move west and figure it out like the rest of us. Or stay home and hunt the big game in your state, if you have any.

BTW, I participate in my state's F&G commission. I suggest you do the same.

SOME residents value... Plenty who don't.

Yes, I'll abandon my business I've built, and my parents that need help, and I'm sure my wife won't mind saying goodbye to the great job she has for better big game hunting. I can't believe it never occurred to me, it's so simple!

 

[Ucsdryder]

just make the easy drive down to Colorado where some units it’s 10:90 residents!!!! We’ll take your money while you take your bow for a hike in the woods!

 

[roadrunner]

Good job Wyoming. I'm hoping for 95:5 in Idaho and $500 big game resident tags. This is the way forward. Resident big game tags prices are a joke. I would easily pay $1,000 every year for an OTC elk tag in my own state. Residents value the resources in the states they live in. If non-residents want to play, pay 10x the price and have <1% draw odds. Don't like it? Move west and figure it out like the rest of us. Or stay home and hunt the big game in your state, if you have any.

BTW, I participate in my state's F&G commission. I suggest you do the same.

Yeah, us fellow westerners that may want to hunt WY are just bottom feeders as well...

Not a chance of litigation. Case law and reaffirmed via federal law that states have the absolute right to discriminate against nrs any way they choose.

Might want to study up more on some case law. Litigation changed some things in NM with a TX blowhard and NR allocations...

 

[dreamingbig]

Not a chance of litigation. Case law and reaffirmed via federal law that states have the absolute right to discriminate against nrs any way they choose.

I think it has a chance to be an issue. Similar to corner crossing.

Email I received last October… they didn’t mention the tag numbers were about to halves!

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[Crowmangler]

no bueno

 

[BuzzH]

Yeah, us fellow westerners that may want to hunt WY are just bottom feeders as well...



Might want to study up more on some case law. Litigation changed some things in NM with a TX blowhard and NR allocations...

I recommend you do more research...you're wrong.

109th congress sf 339 reaffirming states rights to discriminate against nr.

Result of the taulman/uso lawsuit suing under dormant commerce clause that you referenced. That ship has sailed.

Suing a state for discriminating against nr hunting or allocations is going nowhere.

 

[Rich M]

Things are def changing.

The question is will you still go and hunt there once they reduce your opportunity to nothing.

Not many antelope states. Elk and mule deer can be had elsewhere easy enough.

Just remember to send your money to help residents get access to corner crossiings!

Positive side will be less NR you tube experts hunting every year.

 

[Pocoloco]

Good job Wyoming. I'm hoping for 95:5 in Idaho and $500 big game resident tags. This is the way forward. Resident big game tags prices are a joke. I would easily pay $1,000 every year for an OTC elk tag in my own state. Residents value the resources in the states they live in. If non-residents want to play, pay 10x the price and have <1% draw odds. Don't like it? Move west and figure it out like the rest of us. Or stay home and hunt the big game in your state, if you have any.

BTW, I participate in my state's F&G commission. I suggest you do the same.

So much for the United part in United States of America.

 

[BuzzH]

I think it has a chance to be an issue. Similar to corner crossing.

Email I received last October… they didn’t mention the tag numbers were about to halves!

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Good luck...

 

[atrip07]

Increased tag prices and reduced odds hasn’t slowed anything yet! I see the trends continuing as people continue to make money and desire an opportunity to hunt.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I must not be very bright, how dose a unit become a 50 point unit when max points is 26? Maybe in 2046. Everything becomes a max point unit and will just stay that way.

Most likely it will take 24 years just to get thru the max point holders, unless there is attrition do to dropping out or death.

 

[Cowbell]

I will never understand why outfitters are protected so much. And why states cater to them to protect their businesses.

 

[Rob5589]

I recommend you do more research...you're wrong.

109th congress sf 339 reaffirming states rights to discriminate against nr.

Result of the taulman/uso lawsuit suing under dormant commerce clause that you referenced. That ship has sailed.

Suing a state for discriminating against nr hunting or allocations is going nowhere.

Not a lawsuit against the new allocations but, what about the state accepting decades worth of pp income only to slash the odds by more than half. I have no idea but I'm guessing someone is going to try.