25cm is loaded warm to make it shine. Pretty much anything over 2830 fps in a 24in or less barrel is near or exceeding saami max. I've been shooting the 25cm for 7 years, multiple barrels. It behaves much more similar to the 65 VS the 6.
Fast twist barels coming in on the shelf rifles designed to handle the heaviest for caliber bullets, the modern times. No genZ here, maybe I'm having a midlife crisis.......
A heck of a lot of hunting the heaviest for caliber bullets are not needed but for 1000 yard target shooting they have an edge. As far as I can tell the closest 1000 yard range closed here a couple years ago. To visit a 500 yard range I have to go to Graham Tx. some 130 miles away. There is a private club that has one 15 miles away but the waiting list to membership is 3 years. I can get by with bullets having a measly BC of 400. Even Antelope hunting 450 yards is as far as I have shot one and I used a flat based 150 gr. Speer Hotcor out of a 30-06. But toys are still toys. I did build a load around the 162 gr. ELDX for my 7MM RM.
no im not downsizing for hunting. I want to downsize for range time though
Standard Hornady tactic. I am a fan of the 7PRC and have a VERY good hand load worked up and have found VERY good speed with N570. That aside, recently Hornady pulled 1.5-2 grains out of almost all powder in their load data. RL-26, that magic powder everyone says they used to hit 3k box velocity at the beginning. The new max for that powder is 2950 in the book. I asked why..."When we were developing our new manual, we tested all loads and found some of them to be over SAAMI MAP" IMO they didn't just magically become hot, they were too hot from the beginning.
The truth is a 130 grain bullet with a BC of around .400 going over 3100 fps at the time was a revelation. It didn't need "hype". Even today those are pretty good numbers. O'Connor was an English teacher, reloader, writer and a hunter. Warren page was the ballistic nerd.
I have three 270's. Haven't really noticed any great Hornady cartridges.....
Okay. I can see that being a real issue.
Name said cartridge that offers way more for way less? The Creedmoor only offers precision ammo because it was and is a target cartridge. Is it the lesser recoil? Are you saying that it's way less ability as a hunting cartridge is more? I never said the 270 was the end all of 1000 yard target cartridges, it is a hunting cartridge. Born and bred for hunting. If I were to build a custom rifle in 6.5-06 I could do the same thing with the 270 and which would end up being the better cartridge? Very good 1000 yard bullets are being designed in .277 as we speak and a few are already here. But that doesn't matter to me. I hunt and the longest range I have available for my use is 130 miles away and only goes to 500 yards. The question is rhetorical as the 270 Winchester is fine. Still up in the top ten cartridges as to sales.
