Why is the .270 dying?

[FredH]

The .270 isn’t dying, but this is why it should die.

Of course, I will keep shooting it for a while.

It seems apropos that this is what came in the mail last night:

PS - I am hopeful that our kids can have this same conversation in this same thread.
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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

I shoot very few factory loads but I have some 300 of the 130 grain Hornady interlok ready to be loaded. I hate that they made it a more blunt bullet than it was in the past.

 

[ozyclint]

The .270 isn’t dying, but this is why it should die.

Of course, I will keep shooting it for a while.

It seems apropos that this is what came in the mail last night:

PS - I am hopeful that our kids can have this same conversation in this same thread.
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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

That right there is the stock standard 270 kill it all bullet.

I reload and the 130gr Interlock has been getting it done for years.

 

[khuber84]

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Or 25 cm, same mv as the 145, higher bc, less powder, less wind deflection, less drop, lower recoil. newer cartridges can offer better performance. If you have a 270 is it a reason to change, probably not, but if buying a new rifle it might be.

25cm is loaded warm to make it shine. Pretty much anything over 2830 fps in a 24in or less barrel is near or exceeding saami max. I've been shooting the 25cm for 7 years, multiple barrels. It behaves much more similar to the 65 VS the 6.

 

[khuber84]

That comment makes zero sense. Modern era? You mean what exactly? Tipped match bullets, excessive meat damage, short barrels and suppressors? Setting up shots at long range because you feel that is better than stalking into easy range? Yep must be a Gen Z weasel thing.

Fast twist barels coming in on the shelf rifles designed to handle the heaviest for caliber bullets, the modern times. No genZ here, maybe I'm having a midlife crisis.......

 

[JimIsland]

I've got a ton of rifles and never owned a 270. When I started hunting you were either a 30-06 guy or a 270 guy. (for the most part) The 270 and the 30-06 fall in the same category to me. They are both prolific Deer killers that have withstood the test of time. No fancy names, no fancy marketing hype.....just stone cold killers with the track record to back it up.
What's the BC of a Core Lokt 130 grain 270?? Who cares!! All it does is kill

 

[FredH]

Fast twist barels coming in on the shelf rifles designed to handle the heaviest for caliber bullets, the modern times. No genZ here, maybe I'm having a midlife crisis.......

A heck of a lot of hunting the heaviest for caliber bullets are not needed but for 1000 yard target shooting they have an edge. As far as I can tell the closest 1000 yard range closed here a couple years ago. To visit a 500 yard range I have to go to Graham Tx. some 130 miles away. There is a private club that has one 15 miles away but the waiting list to membership is 3 years. I can get by with bullets having a measly BC of 400. Even Antelope hunting 450 yards is as far as I have shot one and I used a flat based 150 gr. Speer Hotcor out of a 30-06. But toys are still toys. I did build a load around the 162 gr. ELDX for my 7MM RM.

 

[Hunter270Win]

Didn’t you say in another thread that your 270 recoil beat you up? So you were downsizing?

no im not downsizing for hunting. I want to downsize for range time though

 

[06 SB]

The 270 Backcountry will be here before you know it. It will use the miracle metal and might have a magical shoulder angle but it will definitely have a 7 or 8 twist for shooting long bullets.

 

[roadrunner]

If you have a .270 load that delivers a .697 G1 at 2650fps with 41gr of powder I would love to see it. I’d say that’s pretty much apples to apples…

No, it's really not apples to apples....

 

[Sccritterkiller]

It's PR firm isn't as good as Hornaday's.

 

[S-3 ranch]

The 270 Backcountry will be here before you know it. It will use the miracle metal and might have a magical shoulder angle but it will definitely have a 7 or 8 twist for shooting long bullets.

I’ll skip that one till they fix the problems with it , the fury has same issue

 

[slatebuilder]

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This certainly is entertaining.

Not 1% of the internet expert number crunchers can shoot well enough to use the theoretical advantage of all the new super cartridges. If I was forced to keep only one rifle and it was a .270 Win, I’d load up a pile of 140g Ballistic Tips, AccuBonds, and Swift A Frames and go forth and slay anything in North America. All my .270s have shot them into the same group at 100 yards and I’ve seen them (BT) crush my stone sheep at 393 yards (back when that was a LONG shot) and pulled an A Frames from the ham of a quartering to me mature Yukon bull moose.

The tipped Noslers match up to the dreaded Leupold and its B&C reticle out to 500 yards. Farther than that I’m not good enough (and neither are most) to be shooting and I’m quite OK with that. Guys that have not used the .270 can quote all the crummy numbers they want, the guys that have used it know how lethal it is and will not let it die…

I like the way you think. I have one 270 that does not seem to like the 145 ELDX(I tried 3 powders). I am mulling over which bullet to try as a second choice.

 

[Chase16]

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25cm is loaded warm to make it shine. Pretty much anything over 2830 fps in a 24in or less barrel is near or exceeding saami max. I've been shooting the 25cm for 7 years, multiple barrels. It behaves much more similar to the 65 VS the 6.

Standard Hornady tactic. I am a fan of the 7PRC and have a VERY good hand load worked up and have found VERY good speed with N570. That aside, recently Hornady pulled 1.5-2 grains out of almost all powder in their load data. RL-26, that magic powder everyone says they used to hit 3k box velocity at the beginning. The new max for that powder is 2950 in the book. I asked why..."When we were developing our new manual, we tested all loads and found some of them to be over SAAMI MAP" IMO they didn't just magically become hot, they were too hot from the beginning.

 

[RWT]

If Federal hasn’t made the 556 super ammo available yet. I would not count on it be a good round. Clearly not enough testing on their end.

270 still kills but is not if I was purchasing new this would not make the list due to wrong twist for the better bullets

 

[Speaks]

I have never shot a deer with a center fire rifle other than a 270 though I think it will be sitting this fall out.

If you drove down the road to my WI Cabin in late Nov and polled the deer hunters you came across (regardless of age) 270 would certainly be in the top 3 along with 30-06 and 308 and based on people I know it might be number 1. 243 would come in somewhat behind those 3 and then numbers for anything else will fall off a cliff.

Range or terminal performance gaps between 270 and any other rifle cartridge will make zero difference in any situation I could take a shot in anyway. However there are now lower recoil options that will also fare no worse and I would point someone to a 6.5cm over one generally speaking, or a 243. 6CM if it was more common might really be the best for around here.

270 would have a long way to fall before reaching obscurity. I bet half the deer hunters in WI have never heard of a 6cm or 6.5prc and still look at the 6.5cm as an ineffective man bun gun.

 

[Johnny Tyndall]

Kind of funny that people are saying the popularity of newer cartridges is being driven by hype and ballistics nerds when the popularity of the .270 was driven by an OG hype man and ballistic nerd.

 

[FredH]

Kind of funny that people are saying the popularity of newer cartridges is being driven by hype and ballistics nerds when the popularity of the .270 was driven by an OG hype man and ballistic nerd.

The truth is a 130 grain bullet with a BC of around .400 going over 3100 fps at the time was a revelation. It didn't need "hype". Even today those are pretty good numbers. O'Connor was an English teacher, reloader, writer and a hunter. Warren page was the ballistic nerd.

 

[Dan Carey]

What ever you replace your 270 with will be replaced by the next greatest cartridge Hornady invented.

 

[FredH]

I ha

What ever you replace your 270 with will be replaced by the next greatest cartridge Hornady invented.

I have three 270's. Haven't really noticed any great Hornady cartridges.....

 

[Dan Carey]

Just wait, they are coming, lol