KenLee
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Me too. 90% of what I hear is badJust when I had about talked myself out of buying a mini in the Grendel, you post this. Goodbye money.
Me too. 90% of what I hear is badJust when I had about talked myself out of buying a mini in the Grendel, you post this. Goodbye money.
It’s to have an idea of your rifle and load’s actual dispersion. I view it less as a group, and more as the actual repeatable consistency that the rifle and you behind the rifle are capable of and can depend on day in and day out. 3 shots 100% does not tell you any of the above information, and 10 shots barely does.What's the relevance of 10 shots to verify a "group".
There is none...
It’s to have an idea of your rifle and load’s actual dispersion. I view it less as a group, and more as the actual repeatable consistency that the rifle and you behind the rifle are capable of and can depend on day in and day out. 3 shots 100% does not tell you any of the above information, and 10 shots barely does.
You don’t know what your cone is unless you actually shoot it. And yes the cold bore will fall within it unless something is wrong with your gun/optic.But if the cold bore shot falls within the cone...
Multiple shots for grouping is nothing more than a confidence builder in the shooter and makes the MOA "average" better. The dumb steel of the rifle doesn't know or doesn't care.
If it can be done with 20 shots, it can be done with 1...
Ok fine…you are right of course. Lets say 95% certainty instead of 68% certainty.
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But you can't know the cone size unless you shoot a decent sample size of shots . Once the cone size is known, you can be confident the 1 single shot will fall somewhere within that established area. That's the reasoning behind large sample size groups. I guess you can call it confidence building because you will be sure to hit where you expect.But if the cold bore shot falls within the cone...
Multiple shots for grouping is nothing more than a confidence builder in the shooter and makes the MOA "average" better. The dumb steel of the rifle doesn't know or doesn't care.
If it can be done with 20 shots, it can be done with 1...
I’m jelly I’ve wanted a sendaro in 25-06 for some time now. Long live the quarter bore.Toss up between my 2 Remington Sendero’s. 25/06 & 7STW
So if you only shoot 1 shot “groups” how do you know what your most accurate gun is? Just going off the title of the thread here.But if the cold bore shot falls within the cone...
Multiple shots for grouping is nothing more than a confidence builder in the shooter and makes the MOA "average" better. The dumb steel of the rifle doesn't know or doesn't care.
If it can be done with 20 shots, it can be done with 1...
My 2 most accurate rifles are a Ruger American in 6mm CM and a RA Gen 2 in .223 (whichever model is the short barreled version)So I'm curious how price plays into accuracy. My assumption is that its minor relevance.
The rifle should be of the hunting class, say less than 12lbs.
So I my most accurate is probably my tikka 22-250, I haven't taken the thermal off it to shoot a groups with it, but sighting in, she's sub 1/2 moa.
What's your go to tack driver?
Ps, second choice might possibly be my ruger american g2
To be fair when I was researching it, I saw much of the same. Lots of ho hum reports or bad reports. But I never saw a single post or video regarding the carbon fiber barrel and stock version (carbon elevate). They were unobtanium for a while. It was a risk based on reviews and maybe I got lucky, but I am so glad I snagged it both for myself and as a training rifle for people new to shooting that I take to the range.Me too. 90% of what I hear is bad
There is definitely statistical relevance in different group sizes. 10 drives the variability down far enough that you actually get a representation of consistency, and you can apply statistics to. A cold bore challenge is less about a proven system, and more about the fundamentals being applied to a hunting type situation with a cold shooter. If you think it's a nonsensical waste of time, you either haven't honestly tried it, or you're an extremely fundamentally sound and slightly egotistical shooter.What's the relevance of 10 shots to verify a "group".
There is none. And a "cold bore challenge" is a nonsensical waste of time...