What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[KSP277]

Honestly tho, I’m pretty proud of the folks in our area. Everybody is inconvenienced, but everybody seems to be riding it out. Hunkered down and waiting it out. Little grumbling here and there. But nobody’s gone Red Dawn, yet.

The weird thing about preventative measures, is you can’t ever really tell it’s working. When it works, all you see is, well nothing. No real fruit, that you can readily or immediately see any way. And that makes people complacent. “We did all that for nothing”. Yeah maybe. Maybe not. I’m still on the fence on this thing. Think it’s gone a bit outta bounds. But, I’ll ride it out. I do know one thing. I don’t wanna be responsible for passing it off to somebody else.

 

[GraveyardNRSE]

So.....I’m curious, and maybe we should start a poll

How many think we should open all business and let this run its course, who ever lives...lives and who ever dies....dies ??

We are doing the total opposite right now but it’s clear some think we shouldn’t be....

Holy hell. I really hope you’re joking here.

 

[MtnOyster]

Holy hell. I really hope you’re joking here.

Seriously......go back and read i mean go way back, some are really pissed we have closed down business to save life, some really think we should have never closed nothing.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

So.....I’m curious, and maybe we should start a poll

How many think we should open all business and let this run its course, who ever lives...lives and who ever dies....dies ??

We are doing the total opposite right now but it’s clear some think we shouldn’t be....

Who said anything about not taking precautions? On several media platforms today, there are people just like you that think anything but, throwing up our arms and screaming for nationwide lock down means you must be against protections. What is wrong with you?

This virus is going to kill people. It might kill me. I don't know. What I do know is people country wide are acting as if we are all in NY state. We aren't. We might be soon enough but, the way this republic works is you carry those that can't do for themselves. People in these highly affected areas need for the rest of us capable people to work and produce PPE's, food, necessity's, etc..... To keep commerce rolling. When it becomes our turn to take shelter, we need the same from them in return. Its how a team functions.

I've spent all dang day listening to people lecturing everyone on the dangers of this virus as if they are the only ones who knows. I've also spent 40 years reading and watching on TV when recession, depression, and the attitudes of those suffering through them, literally kill their neighbors over things we take for granted. Don't think for a second that can't happen here. When things get bad and people stop getting things they perceive as needed, they take it from others at any cost. Why are all those preaching for country wide shut down not seeing this? Have you been asleep over the last three weeks. When things weren't even bad and country wide there were already shortages. People fighting in stores over stuff not even needed to survive. Did you miss that?

As calm has taken more root, research is finding out that this is not the country wide threat YOU are making it into at this point. Yes, we must take the precautions put in place. They weren't flung in as a knee jerk reaction. They have been implemented to save as many in danger as possible. 99% of those that have died in ITALY had other major health issues. 99%. Yet Italy has been thrown out as the poster child by many as what to expect. This isn't Italy.

I don't know what you do for a living. But, I suspect you and a bunch of the country wide shut down specialist get paid salary. Two weeks won't break me or anyone else on this forum. But, if you keep spreading doom and gloom as the expectations to expect, I promise you are going to sink nearly every small business owner in this country. When does that lose become relevant to you? Have you give one seconds though what is going to happen to the health care system, farming, utility companies, this whole country if we hurt this economy this way?

Things are going to be ok health wise if we handle this with common sense. But, you have to realize that with the info we know about this virus, there are much worse thing going to happen to this country then COVID 19 if we kill our commerce. Maybe you need a course in social studies to review life during the great depression.

 

[MtnOyster]

Who said anything about not taking precautions? On several media platforms today, there are people just like you that think anything but, throwing up our arms and screaming for nationwide lock down means you must be against protections. What is wrong with you?

This virus is going to kill people. It might kill me. I don't know. What I do know is people country wide are acting as if we are all in NY state. We aren't. We might be soon enough but, the way this republic works is you carry those that can't do for themselves. People in these highly affected areas need for the rest of us capable people to work and produce PPE's, food, necessity's, etc..... To keep commerce rolling. When it becomes our turn to take shelter, we need the same from them in return. Its how a team functions.

I've spent all dang day listening to people lecturing everyone on the dangers of this virus as if they are the only ones who knows. I've also spent 40 years reading and watching on TV when recession, depression, and the attitudes of those suffering through them, literally kill their neighbors over things we take for granted. Don't think for a second that can't happen here. When things get bad and people stop getting things they perceive as needed, they take it from others at any cost. Why are all those preaching for country wide shut down not seeing this? Have you been asleep over the last three weeks. When things weren't even bad and country wide there were already shortages. People fighting in stores over stuff not even needed to survive. Did you miss that?

As calm has taken more root, research is finding out that this is not the country wide threat YOU are making it into at this point. Yes, we must take the precautions put in place. They weren't flung in as a knee jerk reaction. They have been implemented to save as many in danger as possible. 99% of those that have died in ITALY had other major health issues. 99%. Yet Italy has been thrown out as the poster child by many as what to expect. This isn't Italy.

I don't now what you do for a living. But, I suspect you and a bunch of the country wide shut down specialist get paid salary. Two weeks won't break me or anyone else on this forum. But, if you keep spreading doom and gloom as the expectations to expect, I promise you are going to sink nearly every small business owner in this country. When does that lose become relevant to you. Have you give one seconds though what is going to happen to the health care system, farming, utility companies, this whole country if we hurt this economy this way?

Things are going to be ok health wise if we handle this with common sense. But, you have to realize that with the info we know about this virus, there are much worse thing going to happen to this country then COVID 19.

I don’t think you understood my question, I’m totally for what we are doing but some on here along the way are not and would have rather saved business and took chances with lives.

 

[jmcd22]

Honestly tho, I’m pretty proud of the folks in our area. Everybody is inconvenienced, but everybody seems to be riding it out. Hunkered down and waiting it out. Little grumbling here and there. But nobody’s gone Red Dawn, yet.

The weird thing about preventative measures, is you can’t ever really tell it’s working. When it works, all you see is, well nothing. No real fruit, that you can readily or immediately see any way. And that makes people complacent. “We did all that for nothing”. Yeah maybe. Maybe not. I’m still on the fence on this thing. Think it’s gone a bit outta bounds. But, I’ll ride it out. I do know one thing. I don’t wanna be responsible for passing it off to somebody else.

Same here. My area seems to be taking this seriously, albeit some hoarding and panic buying. I have only left my house for work in the last two weeks and the grocery store once but I live near one of the busier intersections in the valley and it is noticeably less busy. Weather has been gorgeous for this early in the spring and I honestly expected to see cars everywhere but we haven't. Cases are growing, but I think that is just because testing is more available. I think as it gets warmer, cases will decrease as people get outside and away from each other. I am optimistic that this will slow down soon...I just hope the economy follows.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

I don’t think you understood my question, I’m totally for what we are doing but some on here along the way are not and would have rather saved business and took chances with lives.

I totally understood your question. You just didn't like my reply. No one is currently saying we need to throw caution to the wind. There were people saying country wide shut down wasn't needed yet. I was and still am one of them. Being flexible is what makes common sense work. People who grab things like that, then try to stand firm like it was meant as a hard line are the problem. NO ONE says caution and precautions are not needed now. They are saying use your head and look at things from all prospective's.

 

[jmez]

We should concentrate our quarantine effort on the older and the sick that are high risk. We should allow the low risk population to function as they see fit.

It doesn't have to be all or none. You can minimize your burden on the healthcare system, protect those most at risk, and continue to have economic function all at the same time. You also decrease risk for healthcare workers as they won't be caring for as many patients.

If the low risk population isn't comfortable with that they can stay home as long as they like. If high risk individuals stay home they can't get the virus.

Want a stimulus package. Those that lose jobs can be hired by the government to get necessities for those at risk and leave them at their door. We already have that in place here in SD, except it is all being done by volunteers.

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[Dos Perros]

Seriously......go back and read i mean go way back, some are really pissed we have closed down business to save life, some really think we should have never closed nothing.

I’m certainly not speaking for anyone else other than myself here, but the actions we have taken will cost lives. We just don’t know how many right now, and how many the other option might have cost.

One thing is for certain, the “shutting things down” choice will hurt poor folks more than those with means.

 

[MtnOyster]

I totally understood your question. You just didn't like my reply. No one is currently saying we need to throw caution to the wind. There were people saying country wide shut down wasn't needed yet. I was and still am one of them. Being flexible is what makes common sense work. People who grab things like that, then try to stand firm like it was meant as a hard line are the problem. NO ONE says caution and precautions are not needed now. They are saying use your head and look at things from all prospective's.

So what should we have done here , you seem to go from one side of the room to the other, how do you stop spread without shutting down business? By the way I don’t dislike your reply and I don’t think I’ve done any doom and gloom but I have put facts on here.

 

[SlickStickSlinger]

The depression killed about 7 million people many from starvation AND about half the people back then were self sustainable.... If the global economy collapses we have about 5% self sustainability in people.
Do the math. Unfortunately I am siding with not collapsing and hyperflating the dollar and super boosting our hospitals. Actually with the r naught of this virus I have no idea how it would be contained without a lockdown of sorts. I do know historically if the economy goes, we are in for something unfathomable. With the virus too? O man. O man o man o man

If you are a bible reading, Jesus loving christian, please pray for our government leaders from state to federal.

 

[aggieland]

Talked with two of the Dr's I work with this evening. They both think it will hurt people with suppressed immune systems like the flu would but healthy people will probably be just fine. Guess we will see.

 

[jmez]

So what should we have done here , you seem to go from one side of the room to the other, how do you stop spread without shutting down business? By the way I don’t dislike your reply and I don’t think I’ve done any doom and gloom but I have put facts on here.

You don't stop the spread by shutting down business. You want to stop the spread, you lock down everything for 3 weeks. Lock down means no one goes anywhere, period. You then close your borders to any and everyone, no exceptions, until there are no longer any cases anywhere in the world.

That is how you stop the spread.

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[SlickStickSlinger]

Take zinc!!!!

Role of Zinc in Antiviral Immunity

ABSTRACT. Zinc is an essential trace element that is crucial for growth, development, and the maintenance of immune function. Its influence reaches all organs a

academic.oup.com

This should be mainstream news. People don't need to be afraid at all.

 

[MtnOyster]

You don't stop the spread by shutting down business. You want to stop the spread, you lock down everything for 3 weeks. Lock down means no one goes anywhere, period. You then close your borders to any and everyone, no exceptions, until there are no longer any cases anywhere in the world.

That is how you stop the spread.

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By doing a total lockdown would definitely shut down business or am I missing something here??

 

[WV Mountaineer]

So what should we have done here , you seem to go from one side of the room to the other, how do you stop spread without shutting down business?

There you go again. Trying to define a hard line that didn't exist. Things change every day. And, unless you are woefully ignorant, you change course to adjust. That is what has happened here. No one took a hard stance on precautions but the "shut the whole country down crowd". At this point, I don't think there is one thing we should have done differently as far as the way State and Federal government has handled this. Maybe full shut down becomes needed. Until then, I give all levels of government the credit for knowing what they need to do to adjust to their situation. Not internet doom and gloom experts

 

[Billinsd]

The depression killed about 7 million people many from starvation AND about half the people back then were self sustainable....

What country or universe are you talking about? Good lord!!!! Franklin's Great Depression didn't have great deaths. It was a terrible time, my parents and grandparents lived through it. The big numbers of people that died committed suicide after the stock market crash. It was so great that insurance companies changed their policies to exclude suicide.

 

[SlickStickSlinger]

7 million people committed suicide or half sustainable or? I'm always up for learning something.

 

[jmez]

Currently essential businesses are allowed to remain open. That does not stop the spread. To stop the spread there is no essential business. There is no travel, including in your own town. There is complete and total lockdown of everything and everyone for the incubation period of the virus until there are 0 new cases.

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[MtnOyster]

There you go again. Trying to define a hard line that didn't exist. Things change every day. And, unless you are woefully ignorant, you change course to adjust. That is what has happened here. No one took a hard stance on precautions but the "shut the whole country down crowd". At this point, I don't think there is one thing we should have done differently as far as the way State and Federal government has handled this. Maybe full shut down becomes needed. Until then, I give all levels of government the credit for knowing what they need to do to adjust to their situation. Not internet doom and gloom experts

The “Shut the whole country down crowd”was the state and federal government that you just said you don’t think there is one thing we should have done differently................