What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[jmez]

2008 foreclosures coming??

It will be far worse if they don't knock this $hit off.

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[WannabeHunter]

Flu strains and COVID-19 are not the same type virus. So comparisons between the two are inaccurate.

COVID-19 is related to SARS and MERS which are both corona viruses. If you look at the spread of those outbreaks and their mortality rates compared to COVID-19 (now know in medical field as SARS-CoV2) then I think you'd see why they are getting so concerned. NBC has some graphs of the WHO information to compare the three. The mortality rate of SARS and MERS were very high but the transmission was relatively low. COVID is also a coronavirus that we don't fully understand but has a very high transmission rate in comparison.



The major difference between flu and COVID is the rate of severe infection.
FLU requiring hospitalization is 0.06% (61 per 100,000)
COVID with critical illness (multi organ failure etc) is 5%

 

[SlickStickSlinger]

This is the everything bubble. 2008. Meh. I'm just glad we have Trump there. He has taken on more BS than any human that has ever lived in the face of planet besides Jesus. And Jesus wasnt even human. God wrapped in mans flesh
I'll be happy if the state I live in allows to move freely about. I dont see any reason why I cannot go fishing or camping with my family.
The 1000 dollars....going to hunting and self sufficiency items related to hunting.

It's never been about the stupid virus. It's about killing global economies and it is working.

This whole thing pisses me right off real bad.

 

[MuleyFever]

For there being so many internet experts in this thread there sure is a whole lot of stupid ridiculousness.

Edited. I dont mean to call anyone names.

 

[307]

For there being so many internet experts in this thread there sure is a whole lot of stupid.

Big talker...

 

[SlickStickSlinger]

For there being so many internet experts in this thread there sure is a whole lot of stupid.

What is your take on it?

 

[VTJ]

China knew about the virus in their population back in Nov. ...they tried to keep it quiet.... whether this was naturally caused or was an escaped virus from the Wuhan lab, we will never know .... one thing for sure the I hate Trump media has done irreparable damage and the hypochondriacs are scared crapless ...

 

[MuleyFever]

Big talker...

What is your take on it?

Big talker? Nope, look back, you wont see me talking about it at all.

And thats because my take, well, it doesn't matter. I am not a self proclaimed internet expert on any virus or what should be done about them, how long they will last, how many people will die or the underlying government involved conspiracies.

Carry on.

 

[MattB]

If your saying what I posted is untrue I can send you the phone number to the credit union that sent me the email about it closing the bank on post and why.

Credit unions aren't banks so yes, that was untrue.

Second, the implication is that bank branches without drive through's are or would be closing which at present is not true either.

 

[SlickStickSlinger]

Wouldnt it take a person to at least have an idea before they can even think about judging others on theirs?.

 

[jmez]

High mortality and low transmission rate are common with respiratory viruses. As are low mortality and high transmission rates. That is the expected behavior of a respiratory virus.

As for the mortality rate of Covid, no one knows. The way testing is being done it artificially inflates the mortality rates and decreases the infection rate. It appears to have a much higher mortality rate because in many places only the serious cases are being tested.

 

[Rmauch20]

China knew about the virus in their population back in Nov. ...they tried to keep it quiet.... whether this was naturally caused or was an escaped virus from the Wuhan lab, we will never know .... one thing for sure the I hate Trump media has done irreparable damage and the hypochondriacs are scared crapless ...

So you’re trying to tell me this virus has been out and about since November and we’re still not at the 6,900 deaths per day. But those numbers are just around the corner if we don’t do something now. That just seems off a bit.
This has been out amongst for 4.5 months and we only have 7,916 deaths worldwide. Just let that soak in.

 

[VTJ]

"A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed it knew about it.

Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed."..... (Foxnews)

Chinese government knew about coronavirus one month earlier than it claimed: report

A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, more than a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed.

www.foxnews.com

Coronavirus ‘Patient Zero’ May Have Started Pandemic In November or Earlier | CCN.com

www.ccn.com

 

[JustJustin]

"A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed it knew about it.

Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed."..... (Foxnews)

Chinese government knew about coronavirus one month earlier than it claimed: report

A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, more than a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed.

www.foxnews.com

Coronavirus ‘Patient Zero’ May Have Started Pandemic In November or Earlier | CCN.com

www.ccn.com

China just wants to find a "source" that's far away from their suspicious lab.

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[WannabeHunter]

High mortality and low transmission rate are common with respiratory viruses. As are low mortality and high transmission rates. That is the expected behavior of a respiratory virus.

As for the mortality rate of Covid, no one knows. The way testing is being done it artificially inflates the mortality rates and decreases the infection rate. It appears to have a much higher mortality rate because in many places only the serious cases are being tested.

Great points. It's hard to know when the mix of high transmission vs high mortality will be triggered. We won't know realistic fatality rates for probably several years. My previous post was more to highlight why I think they are being so aggressive. Similar viruses have high mortality and covid has higher transmission.

Personally, as a healthcare worker, I really hope this is all for nothing and it all calms down. And I believe, contrary to some on this forum, the CDC and other public health offices are full of highly intelligent people that deal with these matters constantly.

 

[ODB]

High mortality and low transmission rate are common with respiratory viruses. As are low mortality and high transmission rates. That is the expected behavior of a respiratory virus.

As for the mortality rate of Covid, no one knows. The way testing is being done it artificially inflates the mortality rates and decreases the infection rate. It appears to have a much higher mortality rate because in many places only the serious cases are being tested.

This is true. Generally only symptomatic people are tested, which is odd because they always tell us you can be infectious if asymptomatic. If that’s the case, just test anyone who wants it. Which is in fact where I think we will be soon. The hospital where my wife works set up some tents and a temporary driveway that really looks like a perfect setup for drive-through testing. We will see.

 

[S.Clancy]

High mortality and low transmission rate are common with respiratory viruses. As are low mortality and high transmission rates. That is the expected behavior of a respiratory virus.

As for the mortality rate of Covid, no one knows. The way testing is being done it artificially inflates the mortality rates and decreases the infection rate. It appears to have a much higher mortality rate because in many places only the serious cases are being tested.

From the data I've seen, there appears to be two death rates. 0.6-1% for cases in which hospitals are not overrun with cases, ie South Korea, China outside Wuhan, etc and 5%-9% for areas where hospitals are swamped, ie Wuhan, Italy, Iran. I'm guessing we're trying to avoid the latter.

 

[S.Clancy]

This is true. Generally only symptomatic people are tested, which is odd because they always tell us you can be infectious if asymptomatic. If that’s the case, just test anyone who wants it. Which is in fact where I think we will be soon. The hospital where my wife works set up some tents and a temporary driveway that really looks like a perfect setup for drive-through testing. We will see.

That's been the South Korean model it seems.

 

[Dos Perros]

Is there going to be a test to see if you’ve already had it?

 

[ODB]

"A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed it knew about it.

Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed."..... (Foxnews)

Chinese government knew about coronavirus one month earlier than it claimed: report

A new report out of Beijing suggests the first confirmed case of the coronavirus can be traced back to mid-November, more than a month earlier than the Chinese government has claimed.

www.foxnews.com

Coronavirus ‘Patient Zero’ May Have Started Pandemic In November or Earlier | CCN.com

www.ccn.com

I read an article in DN (Sweden) who interviewed Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary
Biologist from Fred Hutchinson in Seattle - there is no better research facility than the Hutch (they developed bone marrow transplants). He said the RNA sequencing tells us three things : a) it’s a natural virus, not manipulated, b) it started mid/late November, and c) the source is most likely bats because they have a bat virus that has a common genetic ancestor as CV-19