What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

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Man when are you guys going to wake the f up? It’s not what’s going on right now that we preparing for. Its what we are looking at a month from now.

Take a look at numbers coming out of Italy as apposed to China’s bullshit fabricated numbers.
Italy has close to 1900 dead with about 25k total cases. Of which 20 k are still active. Read that again till it sinks in.

What about all the other countries where this is that have had minimal impact? Italy has some issues endemic to their population which very likely led to an inflated death rate, but what about India? Germany? Great Britain? Why is the death rate so high in Italy but not elsewhere?
 

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This whole event just gets dumber and dumber. I have no words at this point.

57 dead. Who gives a shit about 57 dead. There’s more than 57 people killed by drunk driving and texting while driving accidents every fu@king week.

The absolute miss handling of this whole situation is going to continue to drive the panic into a frenzy. With the latest news from the Fed we are going to head right into a depression. Like a real deal depression 1930’s style. The economic impact of shutting a country down for 57 dead is going to be beyond our wildest dreams, maybe nightmares

I could very well see as we were having to line up for our rations.
 
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What about all the other countries where this is that have had minimal impact? Italy has some issues endemic to their population which very likely led to an inflated death rate, but what about India? Germany? Great Britain? Why is the death rate so high in Italy but not elsewhere?

I do think there is a lot of apple/orange comparisons made with this. This is really the first virus that has spread this fast that we can report on damn-near instantaneously - and I think that leads to some mighty false conclusions.
 
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It does not add up to a crisis. If you fed the #'s into the smartest computer in the universe and asked it what to do it would tell you to carry on as you were.
 

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What about all the other countries where this is that have had minimal impact? Italy has some issues endemic to their population which very likely led to an inflated death rate, but what about India? Germany? Great Britain? Why is the death rate so high in Italy but not elsewhere?

Italy has the highest case rate per 1 million of population. The country’s you listed are a faction of that. The idea is to not get to that point, the higher the case rate the less venues you have to treat the people that actually need treatment.
Take look at the current case rates
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This whole event just gets dumber and dumber. I have no words at this point.

41 dead. Who gives a shit about 41 dead. There’s more than 41 people killed by drunk driving and texting while driving accidents every ******* week.

The absolute miss handling of this whole situation is going to continue to drive the panic into a frenzy. With the latest news from the Fed we are going to head right into a depression. Like a real deal depression 1930’s style. The economic impact of shutting a country down for 41 dead is going to be beyond our wildest dreams, maybe nightmares

I could very well see as we were having to line up for our rations.

The only thing that will stop the bleeding is when 300000 people have been tested, positives go through the roof (the death rate will then plummet) and people realize we’ve been living with this longer than we thought.
 

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I will add that on a the positive side, because the economic losses were not economically-induced, a recovery should be quicker. People will want to go back to work and ramp up what they were asked to stop.
 

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Italy has the highest case rate per 1 million of population. The country’s you listed are a faction of that. The idea is to not get to that point, the higher the case rate the less venues you have to treat the people that actually need treatment.
Take look at the current case rates
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My point is why? What makes Italy so special?
 

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Italy has the highest case rate per 1 million of population. The country’s you listed are a faction of that. The idea is to not get to that point, the higher the case rate the less venues you have to treat the people that actually need treatment.
Take look at the current case rates
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Cases do not mean hospitalizations - they are but a fraction of positives.
 

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People keep going on about how contagious is viruses but then fail to grasp the true number of cases are at least 4-5x the reported confirmed cases.
 

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Italy has the highest case rate per 1 million of population. The country’s you listed are a faction of that. The idea is to not get to that point, the higher the case rate the less venues you have to treat the people that actually need treatment.
Take look at the current case rates
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Yes. Look at a China. The epicenter of this. 80k cases, 3k deaths, 67k recoveries and new cases are almost nil. So...alll we have to do is beat China and things are about like an extra-serious flu season. We will. Period. We will pay an economic price for it, but we will fare better than China. Stop looking to Italy or Korea for the future. Look to Seattle.
 

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Cases do not mean hospitalizations - they are but a fraction of positives.

Of course. And that should just underscore the fact the even if the fraction remains the same, the total increases as the number cases increase.
If 5% of total documented cases need hospital treatment it stands to reason the more cases the more people get pushed into the system. 5% of 10000 we can handle, 5 % 100000 we may not.
 

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How many people who are convinced it's a Democrat conspiracy read news from outside the USA?
I can't imagine many thinking it's a Democrat conspiracy. The initial theory was China, which initially wasn't outlandish. Of course it's been disproved. However, the Democrats are going to try and blame Trump as much as they can. That's politics as usual. Republicans do it too, but not to the degree or ferocity as Democrats. The news media's #1 agenda is to make money, close second is to get Trump anyway possible, so they hype things up and blame Trump. Of course Trump has his flaws, but not anywhere near what the news claims.
 

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Yes. Look at a China. The epicenter of this. 80k cases, 3k deaths, 67k recoveries and new cases are almost nil. So...alll we have to do is beat China and things are about like an extra-serious flu season. We will. Period. We will pay an economic price for it, but we will fare better than China. Stop looking to Italy or Korea for the future. Look to Seattle.

The future only looks like Seattle if we don’t make the same mistakes that we witnessed in other county’s like Italy. Early containment, limited travel, suppressed gatherings will all flatten the curve.
Compare that to the bitching we see on here over school closures
 

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It was the only place in a 10 mile radius that could take both kids at the time we were looking. I have four other friends with kids in other daycare that are not expected to pay. Last update from a teacher we talk to was there’s a handful of parents saying their pulling the kids if she expects them to pay. Everyone is furious, but we are in a tough circumstance with no backup plan
Sorry to hear that. It wasn't that long ago my kids were in daycare, and we went through some rodeos.
 

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Italy is also a cesspool I've been all over that country it is disgusting and crowded. Their food regulations are piss poor as well as their overall health standards. They also have crap healthcare and an average age of almost 70 what's happening there will in no way foreshadow what will happen here. Quit fear mongering and go back to your shelter.
I've never been to Italy. I had a buddy from Malta and he said Sicily was real bad. The further South the worse. Isn't Northern Italy a lot better? Isn't that where Ferrari and other manufacturing is? And it's got more German influence? Italy is on my list of places to go. Italy is tops in romance, food, wine, history all that.
 
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