What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[roosiebull]

The future only looks like Seattle if we don’t make the same mistakes that we witnessed in other county’s like Italy. Early containment, limited travel, suppressed gatherings will all flatten the curve.
Compare that to the bitching we see on here over school closures

we are doing that.... I think most are taking it seriously, just confused about the all out hysteria. yes, not respected this could get bad, and bad is relative. it's hard to be completely honest without seeming like an ***hole, so we have all of this beating around the bush with varying degrees of worry.

I feel like we're doing pretty good to this point, but the panic is making a different crisis, people need to calm down and use some common sense within this precaution.

I realize we can't act business as usual, but we certainly don't need the chaos we are experiencing. i'm certainly worried, but more about the backlash than the virus.

across the nation, we are going into money making season, the season many rely on to get by.

 

[EastMT]

Pretty sure spanish flu killed 3-5% of the global population. That would be 200-400 million today. There is only 6000 dead now.....how does this compare to spanish flu?

Not logical.

Apples meet oranges. The 1918 flu went for a long time. It’s just getting started and you are acting like it’s completed. They could be similar or they may not be. You think the Spanish flu killed 50 million in 2 weeks?

 

[ODB]

No northern Italy has a huge Chinese population. Over 100,000 emigrent workers from Wuhan area. Daily non stop flights from northern Italy to Wuhan. Northern Italy is the Epicenter there.

News isn't reporting that either.

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Reliable source?

 

[EastMT]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Here is an article that explains why they are enacting what they are.

 

[ODB]

Apples meet oranges. The 1918 flu went for a long time. It’s just getting started and you are acting like it’s completed. They could be similar or they may not be. You think the Spanish flu killed 50 million in 2 weeks?

Apples meet oranges again...you think our ability to treat viruses and the sick is not better now than 1918? Hell man, we were barely washing our hands between surgeries then...

 

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Apples meet oranges. The 1918 flu went for a long time. It’s just getting started and you are acting like it’s completed. They could be similar or they may not be. You think the Spanish flu killed 50 million in 2 weeks?

The spanish flu traveled by horse and stemship not jets....for one thing. There are 6000 dead from this globally with a one day delivery to anywhere on earth. For it to be equivalent to spanish flu, as I stated already, approx 300 million would have to die from kung flu.

 

[*zap*]

The wash post wants you to be afraid.

 

[FLAK]

I'm still thinking something aint just right.
Saying one thing, doing something else.
Just heard a Dr. today say that most (85%) that contract corona will
never exhibit any symptoms, or at most very mild symptoms.
Its no big deal, so nobody panic.
Yet my son will be out of school for the next 3 weeks.
And at work, well they've cancelled all meetings until further notice. (I'm good).
Social distancing (lifelong expert here).
CDC recommending no gatherings of 50 or more.
Untold Billions being spent on this virus.
Constant news updates and conferences.
Something not adding up.
I figure it something like Bubonic Plague or we've been invaded by aliens and this is
just a distraction.

 

[*zap*]

^ someone who can think for himself....

 

[EastMT]

I don’t believe it’s going to kill near that many, but you can’t say oh only 6000 when 1918(actually 1918-1919) came in waves, first one wasn’t bad. Sporadic around the world, hundreds of thousands of soldiers going overseas. Now it’s not soldiers but citizens.

Yeah it’s not going to be as bad, but we also aren’t near as independent, near as self reliant. Think of the number of people them growing and raising all their food. People aren’t as prepared as then.

Hospitals can’t prepare for a pandemic, no matter the time or technology. You can’t have empty staffed hospitals waiting for something that may or may not come.

 

[Don Qui Puncher]

Hate hearing about this, can you get ahold of enough parents to band together and tell the daycare to pound sand. A big enough challenge will cause them to blink I'm sure.

I don’t know enough of them I don’t have any of their numbers or Facebook. I need to let the smoke settle and talk to her in a few days

 

[Dos Perros]

So I’ve seen a variety of those simulators and they make sense. But I’ve not seen one model practical numbers with practical assumptions.

We know health care capacity is only so big. I’d imagine real capacity isn’t much bigger than pre-COVID 19 demand. Free market and all that. So, to handle additional demand, the elective/delay-able type health care will have to be deferred. How big is that %? I don’t assume cancer patients are going to stop their treatments so their oncologist get reassigned. So, once that % is determined you know your capacity to handle the virus.

Then the virus side of the equation. What % of infected will require attention at a health care facility? 1 to 5% maybe? Maybe way less? Millions of people maybe.

Then, what sort of policy will make the right number of people sick at the right time? This seems like trying to steer a cruise ship by looking in the rear view mirror.

 

[EastMT]

Apples meet oranges again...you think our ability to treat viruses and the sick is not better now than 1918? Hell man, we were barely washing our hands between surgeries then...

Ok hospitals are full, ventilators are taken. What good is technology for the rest? I guess they can google treatment options.....

We so far have one treatment for this, it’s an Ebola med. I’m guessing it’s not in supply for a pandemic as large as a Spanish flu, but I don’t know.

 

[Don Qui Puncher]

I'm still thinking something aint just right.
Saying one thing, doing something else.
Just heard a Dr. today say that most (85%) that contract corona will
never exhibit any symptoms, or at most very mild symptoms.
Its no big deal, so nobody panic.
Yet my son will be out of school for the next 3 weeks.
And at work, well they've cancelled all meetings until further notice. (I'm good).
Social distancing (lifelong expert here).
CDC recommending no gatherings of 50 or more.
Untold Billions being spent on this virus.
Constant news updates and conferences.
Something not adding up.
I figure it something like Bubonic Plague or we've been invaded by aliens and this is
just a distraction.

I’m with you man felt the same way since day one

 

[KurtR]

This is interesting For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehiclecrashes, an average of 102 per day

 

[*zap*]

Why has driving not been banned?

 

[Trial153]

Why has driving not been banned?

Are accdents contagious?
Are you for real or what ?

 

[EastMT]

This is interesting For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehiclecrashes, an average of 102 per day

That’s like saying well more people die of heart disease so I wouldn’t even try to prevent cancer.

We invaded 2 countries for less than the number dead from hijacked airplanes, so no need to avoid terrorism. Less soldiers died and than from the virus already

Illegal aliens only killed a few, so tear down the wall

Just because one number is bigger for the time being, you don’t ignore another.

 

[tdot]

I've never been to Italy. I had a buddy from Malta and he said Sicily was real bad. The further South the worse. Isn't Northern Italy a lot better? Isn't that where Ferrari and other manufacturing is? And it's got more German influence? Italy is on my list of places to go. Italy is tops in romance, food, wine, history all that.

If you like to eat, you need to travel to Italy atleast once in your life. I hated it as a 20 year old when I first backpacked there. Fast forward 20 years and I surprised my wife who was on a backcountry ski trip there and proposed to her. We met a couple there who offered to cater and host the wedding. Insanely cheap. Ended up going back to get married there in a tiny little 1500 year old sandstone church
They treated us like family, her mom and sisters cooked for us for a 3 day event. Absolutley bonkers how good the food was and how amazing we were treated. A local farmer brought us 5 gallons of olive oil, just to congratulate us. The real joy of Italy is in the small towns.

If you go, message me and I'll give you the name of probably the best steak house I've been to in the world.

 

[AZ8]

The media's first priority is to make money. They do that by hyping things. They would do that with a Democrat president too, to make money. But they would hate it and do as little as possible. The mainstream media has zero credibility.

They certainly didn’t panic the nation in 2009 with Obama in the White House when the Swine flu killed 12000+ Americans. 59 MILLION contracted the virus with 260000+ hospitalized. He didn’t even declare a national emergency until months later. The press gave him a pass. Nothing was closed, no run on TP, March Madness was played, restaurants stayed open....etc.

The MSM treated Obama much different. This is clearly political.

330,000,000 people in the US. 69 Coronavirus deaths: 69/330,000,000 = .0000002091 of the population.