What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[RyanT26]

How fu$%ing hard is it to comprehend you are helping yourself and others from getting sick by wearing one.

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says

Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, said the WHO's Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove.

www.cnbc.com

“ Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn't have symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it's being transmitted.

"From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."”

This is what I was referencing. If you’re choosing to wear a mask that’s great. As you might’ve guessed I have not I don’t plan to.

 

[PNW bow hunter]

I know and there will probably be another statement from them saying asymptomatic people are superspreaders in 2 weeks.

She just made a statement about saying A symptomatic people "very rarely" transmit the virus. She looked at new modeling that shows up to 40 percent of cases are spread by A symptomatic people!

WTF

 

[RyanT26]

Lol....no.
Check your facts.

If you’re going to try and make an illegitimate comparison, that has absolutely zero relevance, at least post even remotely correct statistics.

You naysayers are simply grasping at anything....just like the liberal media you all despise.
Guys blindly ‘like’ your post, even though your numbers are like 40x to high and totally false lol...

Being part of the problem, is just that.
No better than the folks you talk down about.

Very much like all you doomdayers that hung on every word of Dr. Fauci’s speeches. And the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth revision of how deadly this virus was but here we are in June and pretty much no one cares and totally forgot about.

 

[PNW bow hunter]

WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic coronavirus spread, says much is still unknown

The WHO scrambled to clarify its comments that transmission of the coronavirus by people who never developed symptoms is "very rare."

www.cnbc.com

Here is th e link to the update

 

[Evol]

She just made a statement about saying A symptomatic people "very rarely" transmit the virus. She looked at new modeling that shows up to 40 percent of cases are spread by A symptomatic people!

WTF

Yeah, they're just f****** with us now.

 

[MattB]

It's almost like some folks don't understand the difference between being asymptomatic and pre-sympomatic.

 

[spike camp]

Very much like all you doomdayers that hung on every word of Dr. Fauci’s speeches. And the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth revision of how deadly this virus was but here we are in June and pretty much no one cares and totally forgot about.

There is a huge difference between listening to what the experts have to say, and being a smack talker from day 1.

No one knew what exactly was going to happen, hence NOVEL virus.
And, what fauci predicted was 100k by June...

But you’ll find fault, and finger point anyway, right?
No one knew what was going to be the outcome.
No one knew, how much shutting down the country was going to impact the spread.
NOVEL virus circled the globe in weeks = expect some frigging revisions.

So, now you speak for the nation, if not the entire globe with regards to how much people still are caring about Covid19?

 

[Foldem]

Let go of the fear folks. Everybody dies, and from what we now know it's extremely unlikely it's going to be from Covid-19. Gotta live our lives and make decisions based on data, not fear and emotion and let people decide how far they want to take precautions based on their own personal situation.

Anybody in Arvada want to grab a beer?

 

[Dustin the wind]

Yup, time to quit wasting time on this subject from both sides. How about that whole couple generations, certain cultures and rich elites that want to overthrow the constitution? Seems like the in thing these days.

 

[Laramie]

Almost completely forgot this crap until I saw the forum topic. Life is normal here now. Baseball games, backyard parties, eating at restaurants, going to the bar for a beer, are all everyday occurances now. When we opened up, our cases all but disappeared. We are down to just a handful of active cases- older people who were hospitalized and had pre-existing conditions. You can't find a person in a mask in our area.

 

[RyanT26]

One more and I am out!

How dare you all not live in fear. You must fear the covid virus. You must remember 2.5 million dead by the end of the year, hold on, 1.5 million dead by the end of the year, never mind, 750,000, wait a second, 250,000 damn it, ok for reals this time 60,000, 80,000 maybe, OK no bullshit this time 100,000.
Nailed it, all hail the experts.
Don’t worry about the 28 million people that lost their jobs they will bounce right back.

Just having a little bit of fun guys. Take the mask off for a second take a deep breath a nice fresh air we’re all be OK. At least until the revolution starts!

 

[NDGuy]

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says

Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, said the WHO's Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove.

www.cnbc.com

“ Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn't have symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it's being transmitted.

There are asymptomatic people those who are sick and don't show any symptoms and PRE symptomatic those that the virus is still incubating.

Very different and no way to tell the difference. Wearing a mask will help everybody regardless. It costs you what $5 for a cloth mask, is it really so hard and stepping on your freedoms to wear one for awhile?

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Because your food choices don't affect anybody else's health.

May not affect their health directly But, it sure affects their finances. Insurance deductibles, social security, etc...

I reckon it’s still ok to call those that disagree with the rationale of wearing a mask, ignorant. What an ass hat way of thinking. From an irrelevant observer.

 

[MattB]

May not affect their health directly But, it sure affects their finances. Insurance deductibles, social security, etc...

I reckon it’s still ok to call those that disagree with the rationale of wearing a mask, ignorant. What an ass hat way of thinking. From an irrelevant observer.

You reckon right.

When I read posts like that, I envision you almost getting laid in college. But when the lucky lady asked you to cover your stump you went on some diatribe about how she was squashing your constitutional freedoms. And then she promptly left.

 

[Dustin the wind]

I envision you getting laid

 

[jmez]

I have several theories on those who vehemently are anti-mask. Like I said, these are just theories so take them with your own preconceived grain of salt. I don't want to argue with others about masks anymore and I wear one when public indoors, seems simple enough for now. The list:

#1) People don't like being told they must do something for the greater good, especially if it doesn't really benefit them much as individuals. It's pure selfishness rooted in pseudo rugged individualism.

#2) It's a self coddling response based in denial of an event crippling countries worldwide. It's definitely the more convenient route, and gives feelings of security to pretend an invisible enemy is simply an overhyped threat that won't directly affect them/their community in any substantial way.

#3) Trump doesn't wear a mask - good point, yet this is Trump you are talking about....same guy that also suggested lysol and light to fight the virus....

#4) Propaganda claiming masks actually increase your chances of getting sick, hurts your immune system, causes CO2 poisoning, etc.

#5) The herd immunity argument. Basically, this virus just needs to run its course, the sooner we let it do that the sooner we all get back to normal. Problem with that is hundreds of millions of Americans need COVID to reach herd immunity, and millions would need to die for it. Is that cost to society acceptable?

#6) People that decide to wear a mask and follow local health recommendations are being weak, thoughtless sheep. Yet again, countless studies and other countries employ this technique and have much lower case numbers than the US.

#7) The "I had a REALLY bad flu in early January, I'm convinced it was COVID, so I'm immune now argument" - if you took the time to get an antibody test and you can confirm that, then great, if not you're playing with fire.

#8) American lack of social cohesion - for political purposes federal leadership strives to continue to divide Americans against one another, increasing the stark polarization of every facet they can of daily life, including the virus. You have to ask yourself who this ultimately benefits....hint: not the general population.

Will you see me riding around on a bike down the street wearing a mask? HELL NO. Will you see me driving in my own vehicle wearing a mask? HELL NO. Will you see me wearing a mask inside major public places such as grocery stores? YES, duh.

Lastly, I should say that I work from home, so I'm not someone that is being forced to wear a mask day in day out just to bring home a paycheck. So I'm perhaps mask privileged, and I admit that might bias me.

Or maybe they just don't want to wear a mask.

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[ramsdude47]

The main takeaway for me is that our country will not do well if/when a much more serious pandemic arrives. Look at how many otherwise rational people on this thread are completely and utterly failing to miss the bigger picture, and then transpose that to the general American population (overwhelmingly ignorant and uneducated).

We have a COVID patient in our hospital that has been in the ICU for 56 days. The reason I mention this, is there are still A LOT of people that are going to die from this. Despite all of the drastic measures, this virus still has killed (and will continue to kill) a LARGE # of Americans.

I am very pleased to learn it is not as big of a deal as the experts thought in February. But it is absolutely a bigger deal than the average poster on this thread seems to think.

 

[Lingling]

I contract with a janitorial company who has a german immigrant employee who cleans the store. Hes on the edge. A few weeks ago he came in a little before close and went to a cashier who had a customer in front of him at the register. Cashier was wearing a mask. We had an employee contract covid while on medical leave for something else and was on quarantine. Gunther asks the employee where his balls are because he is wearing a mask. Of course Gunther had nitrile on before cleaning the shitter.

 

[durangobrad]

Arizona calls for emergency plan as COVID-19 spikes after reopening

Arizona again told hospitals to activate the coronavirus emergency plans after cases spiked following reopening, turning it into a U.S. virus hotspot along with neighboring Southwest states.

www.reuters.com

Arizona cases are on the rise:

The state’s stay-at-home order ended on May 15, and its cases have increased 115 percent since then, leading a former state health chief to warn Arizona may need new social distancing measures or field hospitals.

“Since May 15, ventilated COVID-19 patients have quadrupled,” Banner Health tweeted on Monday, adding it had hit capacity for some patients needing cardiac and respiratory care.


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[JustJustin]

Arizona calls for emergency plan as COVID-19 spikes after reopening

Arizona again told hospitals to activate the coronavirus emergency plans after cases spiked following reopening, turning it into a U.S. virus hotspot along with neighboring Southwest states.

www.reuters.com

Arizona cases are on the rise:

The state’s stay-at-home order ended on May 15, and its cases have increased 115 percent since then, leading a former state health chief to warn Arizona may need new social distancing measures or field hospitals.

“Since May 15, ventilated COVID-19 patients have quadrupled,” Banner Health tweeted on Monday, adding it had hit capacity for some patients needing cardiac and respiratory care.


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That article also mentioned a 40% increase in new cases on Utah. What nearly every news article leaves out is that the increase is from testing the employees at a large meet processing plant in Hyram less than a half hour drive from where I live. Since meat-processing is "essential" and has continued to operate it really didn't make any difference what restrictions where lifted a week before. But the media still tells everybody that the increase is because of lifting restrictions.

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