What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

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*zap* said:
It will be interesting to see what happens with the kung flu this fall.
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It'll be interesting to see how the media will aid in spreading fear and, dividing us common people. Well, if you call that interesting.

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There actually is plenty to be afraid of going on right now and lots of people died from kung flu nationwide....not sure the claimed #'s are right but still lots died from it. Now it is here and does not need to get here....the first fall round of spanish flu was 10x worse than the first spring round if you pay attention to history.
 
It saddens me that people with such deranged thinking procreate and vote

SlickStickSlinger said:
So....just a thought to get some of you thinking. Like I had mentioned above, the majority of covid deaths arent even covid related. Meaning I stub my toe, go to the hospital, they say I need surgery and die on the table and they say covid killed me.
Bare with me.

What if they hyped up covid to get people freaked out over something much less serious than what they made it out to be just to introduce a deadly Bill Gates funded vaccine? I mean, anti vax or not I think we can agree a guy that created Microsoft shouldn't be handing out vaccines to people that havent even been tested on animals yet. The guy has been kicked out of parts of Africa where he ran his sick little tests for hell sake.
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For every blue state "over-reporting" deaths there is a red state under reporting.

Despite people staying at home there has been an increase in expected number of deaths. It's not rocket science, these deaths are from the NOVEL VIRUS.

Take off the tinfoil hats and leave the expert epidemiology to the expert epidemiologists.
 
Having worked in emergency medical services this whole time, I think it’s mostly a media scare thing. I think the cdc, federal, local, and state governments vastly overreacted. I believe it’s deadly for those at risk but the entire country shouldn’t have been shut down as it was. Should of left things open to build the herd immunity and allow it slowly work itself out. Those at risk should stay at home and quarantine or reduce their travels to times when lesser population density. I also think it’s been around a lot longer than it’s been broadcast. Back in November and December a lot of people were sick with identical symptoms and I think all this does correlate to the wuhan labs. There’s a couple articles that say they were already working on a cure for a virus identical to this and I think the reason they are pushing for a vaccine so hard is there’s more money in having a yearly vaccine than prescribing the older medicines that have proven effective.
 
Usmcff said:
Having worked in emergency medical services this whole time, I think it’s mostly a media scare thing. I think the cdc, federal, local, and state governments vastly overreacted. I believe it’s deadly for those at risk but the entire country shouldn’t have been shut down as it was. Should of left things open to build the herd immunity and allow it slowly work itself out. Those at risk should stay at home and quarantine or reduce their travels to times when lesser population density. I also think it’s been around a lot longer than it’s been broadcast. Back in November and December a lot of people were sick with identical symptoms and I think all this does correlate to the wuhan labs. There’s a couple articles that say they were already working on a cure for a virus identical to this and I think the reason they are pushing for a vaccine so hard is there’s more money in having a yearly vaccine than prescribing the older medicines that have proven effective.
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Isn't herd immunity only going to work if there is also a vaccine?

I'm far from an expert, but have read from various sources that make that claim. Under the assumption that's the case, it probably doesn't make sense to not take steps to slow the spread until the vaccine is developed.

I have a good friend that's a medic and was dispatched during the height of the infection to NYC...it was no media scare and no joke. My friend was monitoring 60-70 patients on vents at a time with Covid and shared some stories on how fast some patients fell off the cliff fighting this. They all weren't high risk patients either.
 
jmez said:
That is what you would expect to happen. As long as hospitals are not overwhelmed you live with the threat.

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Yup, it’s expected for cases to increase once you open up. I do not like our governor at all for many reasons, but even she keeps having to remind the public that cases will go up and that’s okay. It won’t mean we will close back up. We are prepared for it and that’s just how it works.

We did have almost 100 cases yesterday which is huge for us. However, the governor and team said we tested about 2,000 more people than the average day yesterday. They said that was the main reason for the increase and not any new outbreak.

Our big thing is there are way less people being hospitalized even though cases are/were up. Mid May we were around 160 people in the hospital for covid. Now we are around 100.
 
BuzzH said:
Isn't herd immunity only going to work if there is also a vaccine?

I'm far from an expert, but have read from various sources that make that claim. Under the assumption that's the case, it probably doesn't make sense to not take steps to slow the spread until the vaccine is developed.

I have a good friend that's a medic and was dispatched during the height of the infection to NYC...it was no media scare and no joke. My friend was monitoring 60-70 patients on vents at a time with Covid and shared some stories on how fast some patients fell off the cliff fighting this. They all weren't high risk patients either.
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I’m not a microbiologist but judging from what I’ve read, it would occur from either a vaccine or just being subjected or contracting the illness. A lot of the information I’ve read about the ventilators from various sources both us and foreign say that ventilators were causing more harm than good. They caused irreversible scarring of the lungs. Additionally, countries like France and a few others but can remember off the top of my head used the hydroxychloroquine and were originally reporting 100% success with it. Don’t know if those statistics have changed. I’m pretty sure NY banned the use of that drug.
 
Here are my thoughts. I work for a major package delivery company in western Washington ( ground zero ). To date I know of two people in my sphere of people that have been confirmed to have had it. One person works in the building I am dispatched out of. That was a month ago and so far no more cases have developed in the building. The other I know personally ( he lives in Idaho) and he quarantined himself at home with his family ( wife and two adult children ). No one else in the family contracted it. Now I am not making any judgments here just stating my experiences.
 
AK Troutbum said:
Since we (state of Alaska), reopened on May 22, the number of active COVID cases has increased almost 5 times what it was about two weeks or so ago.
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That’s probably attributed to more testing and also you have to look at the delay in test results. My girlfriend and I both got tested, mine took about 5 days to come back, hers took 14 days.
 
BuzzH said:
Isn't herd immunity only going to work if there is also a vaccine?

I'm far from an expert, but have read from various sources that make that claim. Under the assumption that's the case, it probably doesn't make sense to not take steps to slow the spread until the vaccine is developed.

I have a good friend that's a medic and was dispatched during the height of the infection to NYC...it was no media scare and no joke. My friend was monitoring 60-70 patients on vents at a time with Covid and shared some stories on how fast some patients fell off the cliff fighting this. They all weren't high risk patients either.
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Your friend is a medic and was monitoring 60-70 patients on ventilators? My daughters best friend is a RN at a major NYC hospital and she monitors 1-2 patients on Ventilators and her hospital has a respiratory therapist for every 10 patients. She tells me that last month they had 4 floors of covid patients 2 to a ventilator. Now her hospital is down to 1 floor of covid patients. My daughter is a critical care nurse here in AZ and her hospital has a 1 to 1 ratio meaning for every 1 patient on a respirator there is 1 nurse assigned to that patient. My daughter works for a hospital group that has 5 locations and 1250 beds. Until this week her hospital had an average of 4 covid patients. Last week they started flying them in from the Navajo Reservation and as of Friday they had 40 covid patients.
 
Funny how during all this rioting you don’t hear much about the virus. People are carrying on with business as usual for the most part around NC.
 
Usmcff said:
I’m not a microbiologist but judging from what I’ve read, it would occur from either a vaccine or just being subjected or contracting the illness. A lot of the information I’ve read about the ventilators from various sources both us and foreign say that ventilators were causing more harm than good. They caused irreversible scarring of the lungs. Additionally, countries like France and a few others but can remember off the top of my head used the hydroxychloroquine and were originally reporting 100% success with it. Don’t know if those statistics have changed. I’m pretty sure NY banned the use of that drug.
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That's obviously political. Hydroxycloroquine was perfectly fine and FDA approved and in wide use until Trump said it helps against Corona. Then all of a sudden its deadly! Its also funny how the ventilators that NY was trying to selfishly collect as much of the US stock as possible and then didn't use nearly all of them are counterproductive but the proven-to-help hydroxycloroquine was banned. Yet, Trump didn't give NY enough ventilators and he was supporting hydroxycloroquine and he's totally doing everything wrong.
Cuomo jumped on the ventilator bandwagon (very few people that were put on a ventilator survived, and those that did have lung damage), banned a clinicaly-proven-to-help drug that has been in wide use, and worst, forced positive patients to go back to assisted living facilities, which is one of the main reasons NY has such a high death toll. But, according to some sources, Cuomo did everything perfect.
I guess from a socialist point of view...the old people need to die once they are a material drain on economy...so they don't care how many people die in ALF's...

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And another about face from the healthcare world. Transmission from asymptomatic people is rare. It's actually sick people making others sick. And the best method for control appears to be isolating sick people and those with known contact since they have been sick.

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