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I went during lunch break expecting a line, there was none, booths were nearly full though. Maybe a perk of the jurisdiction being a pretty small township? Its a real bummer that they dont have more voting locations to spread people out for you guys that had to wait that long.
 

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Facts not racist opinion: in general blacks and Hispanics are not very fond of each other.
Yesterday both NC and SC passed a state constitutional amendment to change "every citizen" can vote to "only a citizen" can vote. Guess someone thought that closed any potential loophole.

Facts: They voted for Obama 86% in 2012 - but anyway.

Idaho also passed a similar amendment. People are getting tired of those not vested in the country making its decisions.
 

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Sccritterkiller and. Wyo hunter, you guys posted the laugh emoji. Just curious, either of you guys serve your community and/or your nation? If so, thank you for your service.
First off, yes. Secondly, that's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 

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Facts: They voted for Obama 86% in 2012 - but anyway.

Idaho also passed a similar amendment. People are getting tired of those not vested in the country making its decisions.
Obama and Clinton are/were the least tied to race in there policies as anyone I have ever met. I actually voted for both, twice! I'd vote for Bill Clinton again if he could run again.
 

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Obama and Clinton are/were the least tied to race in there policies as anyone I have ever met. I actually voted for both, twice! I'd vote for Bill Clinton again if he could run again.

Policies were not part of your claim - you inferred hispanics didn't choose Harris because she was black. I proved otherwise.

Moving a border county after 100 years from D to R is significant.
 

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Policies were not part of your claim - you inferred hispanics didn't choose Harris because she was black. I proved otherwise.

Moving a border county after 100 years from D to R is significant.
All you proved was that she isn't Obama and it's not 2012 anymore.
 

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I proved two things:

1) Your race claim was false
2) your arrogance prevents you from admitting it
Congratulations if that makes you feel better. Open your eyes and ears and see what you learn.
Maybe because Texas had high % of Hispanics for a loooong period of time, the race relations are better than here in South Carolina and North Carolina, but I see and hear it on a regular basis.
 

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I live in the real world and talk to a diverse set of people every day confidentially, along with jury pools and many focus groups for jury trials.
Supporting your opinion with a personal assessment of various "data" is just an opinion about your opinions.

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Not trolling at all, absolutely sincere. And before anyone reflexes with a dismissive label, I served my nation for a career in the Attack Submarine Navy as a Republican. When I retired and came home I was approached by local Republican leaders to run as a candidate for a seat as a councilman in my local town government. I did, won, and served two terms as a Republican until I decided not to seek reelection. I am also a hunting and fishing guide licensed in two states. I believe to my core that Trump is a reprehensible human who appeals to the worst of our human nature. I do believe that it was a sad day for America that good people were so unhappy in their lives that he would be an acceptable choice to lead a great nation. Just one man’s opinion.
I think nearly every career politician is just as bad as DJT, they have just done a better job of flying under the radar and/or getting away with it.
 

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Thank you for your service.

What made Kamala an acceptable solution besides not being trump?
To me it boiled down to two things first was a vision pushing a positive forward looking agenda over one of fear and vilifying “the other.” Economists said her policies would grow the national deb by about 1/2 what Trump’s would and economists say that his promised tariffs will be detrimental and inflationary to our economy. I believe in science and see the impacts of climate change in my region (Adirondacks) for real. Que the deniers, but I believe in anthropogenic climate change and the need to confront it head on. Climate denialism is counter to accepted science and dangerous for our future and what we will leave behind for future generations. I also believe that the emerging technologies developed in tackling this problem could be extremely beneficial to our economy and allow us to become a world leader in that area. I find his rhetoric, combined with the caution of the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff among other Republicans who served with him, counter to my values as a person and as an American. I believe that we need to tackle
the problem of illegal immigration using a multi-faceted approach using modern technologies and economic tools. Trump killed a bipartisan initiative to do this for personal gain and it served him well. Take a look at the stock market, historic highs. And before the inflation drum gets pounded, do a bit of reading about causative factors. Inflation is a global problem. May sound hypocritical coming from a military retiree, but I’d rather see some money spent on emerging technologies to benefit our society and economy rather than more funneled into the military industrial complex. I do not believe that trickle down exonomics benefits the working American. Look where Trump’s previous tax cuts were focussed and where future cuts will land. You may get a token, but the fat cats will win large. I have worked hard my entire life and have more than I could have ever hoped for, so that’s not jealousy. I live simply and have more than I need or could have hoped for. I just don’t think more of our national wealth needs to be funneled to the money hoarders. To me, Trumps’s platform is one of fear mongering and division, not one of looking to a new, brighter future.

Secondly, and finally, she’s not Trump. If you think January 6th was just a “dust up” or an “enthusiastic voicing of free speech”, you need to look at some real footage of the event with an open mind. Trump fermented that and allowed it to progress. That in itself is disqualifying to me. When I served on my local town board an incumbent Republican had a challenger in the primary. The
challenger died before the primary. He later won both the primary and the general election. The town supervisor wanted to appoint the incumbent to the seat. I opposed that and another board member agreed with me. The stalemate went on for a couple months before the supervisor finally relented. I’ve been in a community where a dead man was chosen over a candidate. I would support anyone, literally anyone including Harris, over Trump based on January 6th alone. I honestly believe he’s the greatest threat to democracy and national security our nation has ever faced. No one has ever worked to undermine the election system or America’s faith in our national systems the way he has.

Just one man’s opinion. It may be different than yours. If this is rambling I’m typing it on my phone as I sit on a hardwood ridge. Magic hour is upon is so that’s it for now. I understand that I won’t change anyone’s mind anyway so I’ve given this enough time. It is worth knowing that not all “never Trumpers” are communists or anti-Americans.
 
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