Unknown tikka action mod issues…

[Dunky]

I think ( not 100% sure) that Jake said they were also going to have a SRS rail made to utilize only one hole up front and pinned for people that wanted to use other rings.

 

[Quicksilver]

You don’t do a modification like this without knowing you’re going to put yourself into a narrow choice of options. People doing this mod are doing it for the weight loss first, and deal with repercussions later…and not complain about it.

 

[Wapiti1]

I do wonder if UM could drill new screw holes for direct mount rings, was that discussed at all?

The duck pond on the front ring hoses up your screw spacing options for a direct mount ring/base. Pinning and just using 3 holes is the easy way to go. That said, the factory dovetail is the strongest connection option.

Jeremy

 

[sndmn11]

I think you could still use a pinned and epoxied pic rail like the area419, vision, SRS.

 

[NSI]

I will happily trade anyone who is unhappy with their UM action. I only use dovetail rings. Feel free to PM.

-J

 

[wind gypsy]

Is one screw enough on the front for a rail? I'd want to epoxy it on I think.

 

[MTN BUM]

The documentation should have been better, but there is no free lunch chasing ounces.

@Rooseveltwrecker, if you're not happy with it, send it back to UM. They would swap your actions and refund you the difference.

I just got mine back, and it will probably be my only "lite" Tikka action cause I like my rifle at 9+ pounds. But I will be getting all of them Nitrited.

This is why I chose to use UM for rifle building and ammo dev. And anything else I can. Listening to Jake on the podcast I am pretty certain they are going to make things right by the customer and not fill you full of some BS.

Also, they did cover this on one of the podcast episodes. Not that you should have to listen to it to know what you're getting, but the info was out there and now maybe just more clear.

Honest question- why would you choose anything other than the UM rings for a Tikka, esp if you are having them mod the action/bolt? Assume starting from scratch- I can see wanting to keep rings if you already have them.

 

[peaches]

This is a hard no go for me, taking away 99% of your optic mounting choices to achieve 3-4oz weight loss......really putting yourself in a box.

Yup. Different strokes I guess. Just because it can be done doesn't make it a good idea. Glad the OP is 'happy'.

 

[realunlucky]

Is one screw enough on the front for a rail? I'd want to epoxy it on I think.

Where is the concern-- clamping force of holding the rail to the action or shear force of 3 screws keeping the rail from moving forward and aft?

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[wind gypsy]

Where is the concern-- clamping force of holding the rail to the action or shear force of 3 screws keeping the rail from moving forward and aft?

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I'd think if it were pinned maybe not so much the shear force but rather relying on one tiny screw for clamping the front half to not loosen up.

 

[Rooseveltwrecker]

Guessing you could ask them to do the other action cuts and not do the port cut?

Be something to take up with them

 

[Rooseveltwrecker]

You don’t do a modification like this without knowing you’re going to put yourself into a narrow choice of options. People doing this mod are doing it for the weight loss first, and deal with repercussions later…and not complain about it.

Like not being able to mount a scope unless using 1-2 sets of rings…. Right

 

[Rooseveltwrecker]

The only part I’m not happy with and wasn’t aware of was the loss of the mounting option. Don’t care to send it back just didn’t know I was spending $145 for a set of rings and not bolting on the stuff I have currently sitting in safe.

 

[sndmn11]

Is one screw enough on the front for a rail? I'd want to epoxy it on I think.

I think it would be fine. I took an unpinned but bedded rail off my vanguard yesterday and had to hammer and block of wood to break the bond. A pin plus the grooves on top of a T3 receiver wouldn't give me any second thoughts.

The vision rail slides over the dovetail and maybe uses threaded set screws for pins. I'd bet that is permanent if glued on.

 

[Rooseveltwrecker]

This is why I chose to use UM for rifle building and ammo dev. And anything else I can. Listening to Jake on the podcast I am pretty certain they are going to make things right by the customer and not fill you full of some BS.

Also, they did cover this on one of the podcast episodes. Not that you should have to listen to it to know what you're getting, but the info was out there and now maybe just more clear.

Honest question- why would you choose anything other than the UM rings for a Tikka, esp if you are having them mod the action/bolt? Assume starting from scratch- I can see wanting to keep rings if you already have them.

Had the rifle and been killing stuff with it since before UM was a thing and wasn’t planning to switch rings or anything just was gonna bolt on what I had. Not saying they aren’t better then the talleys just didn’t know I was gonna be buying them to get rolling.

 

[Quicksilver]

Like not being able to mount a scope unless using 1-2 sets of rings…. Right

I knew about it before I ordered. also did plenty of research on others and talked to people who have done the mod before. Can’t say I feel bad for you here! I understand what you’re saying on everything though.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

He didn't ask anyone to feel bad for him. He wanted to make sure others weren't caught off guard. Thanks OP for raising awareness and I don't think you're looking to whine or anything.

 

[Ryan Avery]

He didn't ask anyone to feel bad for him. He wanted to make sure others weren't caught off guard. Thanks OP for raising awareness and I don't think you're looking to whine or anything.

It’s a great post by the OP.

It brings up the point about buying a “new model” of anything. Ask lots of questions

 

[tpicou]

Had the rifle and been killing stuff with it since before UM was a thing and wasn’t planning to switch rings or anything just was gonna bolt on what I had. Not saying they aren’t better then the talleys just didn’t know I was gonna be buying them to get rolling.

yeah that’s such a funny comment. people have been killing shit all over the world with talley rings since before I was even born. heaven forbid you wanted to keep something that worked for you

 

[wind gypsy]

In general, buying through unknowns website ain’t Amazon or midway, some due diligence may be necessary to get appropriate expectations. “In-stock” doesn’t always mean in-stock.

I think it would be fine. I took an unpinned but bedded rail off my vanguard yesterday and had to hammer and block of wood to break the bond. A pin plus the grooves on top of a T3 receiver wouldn't give me any second thoughts.

The vision rail slides over the dovetail and maybe uses threaded set screws for pins. I'd bet that is permanent if glued on.

Kind of a bummer to spend that $ on weight reduction just to add half or more of it back with a rail though.