UM/S2H/Suppressors/Scopes and More!

[Formidilosus]

My intent wasn’t to be critical of the design. Just to say, tone is important to me no matter how animals respond to it. I agree that it looks like it will do well on a lot of my key points, and it will be a winner.

Oh I didn’t think you were. I was saying that I agree with the logical task/desire list. Instead of only going off of weight, or only length- it’s the whole thing.

 

[pattimusprime22]

That’s good. The goals for this first can are:

1). Hearing safe- sub 140dB at shooters ear
2). Shortest added oal to rifle
3). Better balance to the rifle
4). Around 10oz or less
5). More of a hollow sound if possible.

With this goal list, where do you see this new suppressor design improving on a similarly spec'd AB raptor with reflex combination? I am speculating that a raptor 4 with 5 inch reflex would hit goals 2) to 5) pretty well, is the issue that the raptor wouldn't reduce dB enough?

 

[gbflyer]

Could someone explain a “reflex” suppressor?

 

[z987k]

Could someone explain a “reflex” suppressor?

Look at the AB raptor.

 

[HuntHarder]

Once we got past all that "tone not scareing animals" talk, this suppressor sounds badass. 10ish ounces, OTB, sub 140 db and hopefully a good company, with good customer service. Take my money. Now if could only eliminate the tax stamp before these are produced.

 

[HuntHarder]

These discussions are enjoyable. You can own multiple suppressors that have similar decibel levels but produce very different sounds. For instance, consider the Ultra 7 and the Raptor 8 Stack (No Reflex). While both are comparable in decibels, most people who have heard them prefer the AB. I don't own any suppressor companies, but when asked to assist in designing one, I want it to be as short as possible in front of the muzzle, hearing safe, and produce a hollow sound. I don't think Form and I are alone in wanting a can like this.

I don't think anyone, that has ever shot multiple different suppressors, would argue that they all sound different, even if DB is close or the same. I think, based on parameters Form set forth, this new suppressor should be badass. Appreciate you.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

One of these OTB cans on a 16" 338 arc bolt rifle would be a fun time

 

[prm]

Any chance this be available in a model for .338?

 

[lintond]

What we need is a guy standing downrange next to the target to evaluate the sounds haha

We have a live fire range at my gun range where the targets are raised up above a berm. I did a competition there once where you partner raised/lowered the target every shot. I was not a fan, even though I was safe behind the giant berm/wall.


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[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Once we got past all that "tone not scareing animals" talk, this suppressor sounds badass. 10ish ounces, OTB, sub 140 db and hopefully a good company, with good customer service. Take my money. Now if could only eliminate the tax stamp before these are produced.

Agreed, my only hesitation will be price. I imagine "sub-$1,000" means very close to $1,000. Competitive price for a Ti can, but for 1oz more and half-ish the price a steel A-10 can be had. For guys that have a Ti can already the juice might not be worth the squeeze.

I think a successor to the Harvester EVO would be popular. Steel, 10ish oz, sub-140dB, $500, designed for hunting.

 

[atmat]

Agreed, my only hesitation will be price. I imagine "sub-$1,000" means very close to $1,000. Competitive price for a Ti can, but for 1oz more and half-ish the price a steel A-10 can be had. For guys that have a Ti can already the juice might not be worth the squeeze.

I think a successor to the Harvester EVO would be popular. Steel, 10ish oz, sub-140dB, $500, designed for hunting.

I get that. But I think this community way overspends and probably will swallow that cost.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I get that. But I think this community way overspends and probably will swallow that cost.

True, I'm thinking about the broader hunting market and my buddies who scoff at spending four figures on a can. Including stamp, $700 is a lot easier to swallow than $1,100-$1,400.

OTB will probably be enough juice for me to justify the squeeze of a second Ti can. Would love to go 22" on a 6CM instead of 18" and maintain the same rifle OAL.

I mean, who wouldn't want an extra 4"??

 

[atmat]

True, I'm thinking about the broader hunting market and my buddies who scoff at spending four figures on a can. Including stamp, $700 is a lot easier to swallow than $1,100-$1,400.

OTB will probably be enough juice for me to justify the squeeze of a second Ti can. Would love to go 22" on a 6CM instead of 18" and maintain the same rifle OAL.

I mean, who wouldn't want an extra 4"??

I normally run a 16” with TBAC U7. But the new MRC is 18”, so I’ll appreciate the shorter profile on this.

 

[2buffalo]

What contour barrels will they fit over? Sendero profile?

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

What contour barrels will they fit over? Sendero profile?

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[2buffalo]

Post #20

Thanks

 

[gbflyer]

Look at the AB raptor.

That doesn’t help. The website assumes the reader knows what they are writing about. I have a suppressor that threads on the end of the muzzle. It has some different adapters for various threads. It makes it quiet so I don’t need ear muffs and reduces recoil. What’s the difference?

 

[Plague]

That doesn’t help. The website assumes the reader knows what they are writing about. I have a suppressor that threads on the end of the muzzle. It has some different adapters for various threads. It makes it quiet so I don’t need ear muffs and reduces recoil. What’s the difference?

They have mount with a reflex chamber in the rear. Adds volume without increasing overall length in doing so.

 

[RocketRob16]

Agreed, my only hesitation will be price. I imagine "sub-$1,000" means very close to $1,000. Competitive price for a Ti can, but for 1oz more and half-ish the price a steel A-10 can be had. For guys that have a Ti can already the juice might not be worth the squeeze.

I think a successor to the Harvester EVO would be popular. Steel, 10ish oz, sub-140dB, $500, designed for hunting.

Definitely count me as one in this group. I am very much a budget hunter the majority of the time. If I can get a suppressor that works really well for $500, why would I spend another $500 to shave a couple ounces? The Harvester EVO was my first can and I love it. I wanted the Scythe-Ti but couldn’t justify the price compared to the Harvester with such similar specs. The A-10 will be next.

This suppressor they’re working on sounds great but will be out of budget for me for the time being. Hopefully the OTB catches on here and becomes more widely available.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

That doesn’t help. The website assumes the reader knows what they are writing about. I have a suppressor that threads on the end of the muzzle. It has some different adapters for various threads. It makes it quiet so I don’t need ear muffs and reduces recoil. What’s the difference?

This image explained it for me. At least a bit.