Trail Access Restrictions - No UTVs = No Horses

NMJM

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I wish there were *more* restrictions on ATV’s and UTV’s and I haven’t been on a horse since I broke my arm (for the second time) on dads barrel racing horse I wasn’t supposed to be riding in the fourth grade.

Keep wild places wild. There is nothing more out of place and disheartening than being in the middle of nowhere, miles from a road and having a quasi biker gang of overweight suburbanites come screaming around the bend on their expensive go-carts.

Mountain bike? Cool
Horses and mules? Cool
E-bikes? Yeah alright
Motorized vehicles? Negative. Ride them on the national forest roads with the cars if you really want to get them out of the culdesac.

Just my opinion.
100% agree
 

TaperPin

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Not at all! It was a great learning experience and I look forward to going back next year.

It amazes me how entitled some residents are here on this forum. Heaven forbid someone show up with a different point of view or point out where people have used the system to give themselves an unreasonable advantage. It's certainly not all of them, but if you're not one of them you know who I'm talking about. If you don't then you're probably who I'm talking about.
Not everyone that grows up in family with horses automatically hunts on horseback. An outfitter’s son I know is plenty happy to avoid horse hassles, and hunts areas horses can’t access. I park next to a lot of horse hunters, but it makes no sense hunting next to them.

Trying to compete with horses on major horse trails is like walking down a 4 wheeler trail and complaining about what an advantage they have. Do painters with only a brush complain about those who have a sprayer? Lol
 

Mtndawger

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Replace side by side with horses and your statement is equally true.

It is a big leap. Everything else is fair. If horses aren't native to the area they should be banned too.
Every one of those is a straw man argument. You are missing the logic. There has to be rules. We have to agree on the rules and to a large extent we have agreed on them which is why we have some trails that you get to use your motorized vehicle on for 9 months (or 6 or what have you) of the year but not during hunting season. That is fair. “Wild” in the modern world is a relative definition. True Wild excludes man entirely and it may get to that someday, but for now horses are animals, as is a man on foot and as such is much less of an impact on game. Once again, it’s not about you and what you think your rights are, it’s about how best to manage the interest of the game with the interests of man. It really isn’t a leap. There are plenty of places to do what you want to do. If it makes you feel better, I’m a really fit dude backcountry telemark skiing and mountain biking and hiking and hunting during muzzleloader, duck (mountain duck hunting) first rifle, second rifle and this year fourth rifle, all weekly year round and even I don’t hike or backpack in more that a few miles off trail or road (I try to avoid trails during hunting season) in the Colorado mountains. Its really hard work. Anymore it is a feat to get away from people in the mountains into truly wild country. The place is over run with people. So again, let some places be.
 
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