Toyota Tundra Owners

[Cheesy]

My Silverado is a 2002.

I bought a 2003 GMC 1/2 ton brand new. I traded it in 10 years later because we needed a family car. I regret getting rid of it. 230k miles and it still ran like a sewing machine. Pretty simple overall and that 5.3 is dead nuts reliable. Transmissions are cheap.

That said, I bought a new Tundra in 2019 (2020 model year). It just turned 90k miles this morning. I hope to get 300k out of it.

 

[SDHNTR]

Thoughts on the 2019-2021 transmission without the tranny cooler? I think I’m going to swap out my 2018 with 140k for a 2021 with 101k, but I’ll be giving up the transmission cooler. I live in the Rocky Mountains and tow my atv flatbed trailer with a rzr800. No crazy weight. Mostly in cooler fall temps.

Frequent atf changes and or just add one. It’s a simple job.

FWIW the third GEN does not have a transmission cooler either, and damn does it get hot easily!

 

[Long Cut]

Thoughts on the 2019-2021 transmission without the tranny cooler? I think I’m going to swap out my 2018 with 140k for a 2021 with 101k, but I’ll be giving up the transmission cooler. I live in the Rocky Mountains and tow my atv flatbed trailer with a rzr800. No crazy weight. Mostly in cooler fall temps.

There’s OEM & aftermarket transmission coolers available. You’re looking at $1,300-2k ish if you DIY it yourself.

Watch some YouTube videos, several guys have done before & after comparisons with thermostats to verify. IIRC one video showed the transmission reaching 275F while towing in mountains without the cooler.

TBH I’d keep the 2018 and update the Apple Car Play (Only other real difference, aside from Trim) you’d get from going 2018 to 2021.

 

[Ucsdryder]

There’s OEM & aftermarket transmission coolers available. You’re looking at $1,300-2k ish if you DIY it yourself.

Watch some YouTube videos, several guys have done before & after comparisons with thermostats to verify. IIRC one video showed the transmission reaching 275F while towing in mountains without the cooler.

TBH I’d keep the 2018 and update the Apple Car Play (Only other real difference, aside from Trim) you’d get from going 2018 to 2021.

2021 sr5 doesn’t have apple car play. Toyota are a bunch of cheap bastards when it comes to that stuff!

 

[SDHNTR]

2021 sr5 doesn’t have apple car play. Toyota are a bunch of cheap bastards when it comes to that stuff!

Well, they were until 2023. Then they stopped being cheap with the tech, upgraded the tech to the point of silliness, and went cheap with everything else. Even the stuff that matters. No tow hooks on a 4x4!

 

[ETtikka]

I just wish they had more payload

I have had 2 times the max payload without issues, not exactly safe but the truck can hold more weight, the payload I assume is based on how much weight before the safety systems are compromised , etc

 

[Haro450]

I have 2021 Tundra Crewmax SR5 with 43,000 miles I would part with it would be just a smidge over the 15k mark though. It even have Apple car play.

 

[StuckInTheEast]

I have had 2 times the max payload without issues, not exactly safe but the truck can hold more weight, the payload I assume is based on how much weight before the safety systems are compromised , etc

Factory payload rating......what factory payload rating.
Over 9k lbs on way home from wyoming with 3 elk in coolers and all the gear...but its not stock.

Plenty of stopping and going power and with the beefed up suspension components it's drives, rides and handles quite well even at that weight...supercharger would be on it if they didn't cost $7k...alittle more torque in the mountains at 9k lbs would be nice, but it did everything asked of it just fine.

The weak springs in the rear are biggest issue...I sagged my wife's a bit with one heavy load...granted it was A FULL bed of stone products.
I modified my springs and added RAS system and will be ordering full custom springs packs very soon.
Upgraded springs and RAS does wonders for towing and hauling with the tundra.
If your the type that whines about "you cant load over factory payload"...go watch the scrap haulers at your local recycling yard everyday...your perception of "overloaded" will be changed quickly.
The frame, axles and brakes can safely and reliably handle a fair bit more than rated payload with some improvements on rear springs in my experience, most any truck can with a bit of modification and common sense...but exceed that number on the sticker at your own risk, I take no liability for anyone's ability or lack there of to judge how much is too much and how to safety operate when loaded heavier than OEM specs.

 

[Thinkingman]

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Factory payload rating......what factory payload rating.
Over 9k lbs on way home from wyoming with 3 elk in coolers and all the gear...but its not stock.

Plenty of stopping and going power and with the beefed up suspension components it's drives, rides and handles quite well even at that weight...supercharger would be on it if they didn't cost $7k...alittle more torque in the mountains at 9k lbs would be nice, but it did everything asked of it just fine.

The weak springs in the rear are biggest issue...I sagged my wife's a bit with one heavy load...granted it was A FULL bed of stone products.
I modified my springs and added RAS system and will be ordering full custom springs packs very soon.
Upgraded springs and RAS does wonders for towing and hauling with the tundra.
If your the type that whines about "you cant load over factory payload"...go watch the scrap haulers at your local recycling yard everyday...your perception of "overloaded" will be changed quickly.
The frame, axles and brakes can safely and reliably handle a fair bit more than rated payload with some improvements on rear springs in my experience, most any truck can with a bit of modification and common sense...but exceed that number on the sticker at your own risk, I take no liability for anyone's ability or lack there of to judge how much is too much and how to safety operate when loaded heavier than OEM specs.

There's a reason you almost never see stock Toyotas.
The suspension is notoriously weak.
I would be very suspicious of the frame on those cars, too.
Not too long ago, there were some hilarious videos showing how flexy the Toyota frames are.
Did they ever box them?

 

[Ucsdryder]

There's a reason you almost never see stock Toyotas.
The suspension is notoriously weak.
I would be very suspicious of the frame on those cars, too.
Not too long ago, there were some hilarious videos showing how flexy the Toyota frames are.
Did they ever box them?

Post it

 

[Thinkingman]

Post it

Boxing
1:20 is hilarious
Trying to make a weakness a strength
3.00 forward is the science

 

[CMP70306]

I’ve driven a Toyota Tundra for the past 17 years, first a 2008 and now a 2018 and I’ve never had any issues with them though I’ve only put 67k miles on the first one and 45k on the second one. My brother had a 2012 with 126k on it, only major component to be replaced was the alternator and that was this year.

Starting a family now and need more interior space for us and the dog so I’m switching over to a GMC Yukon XL, I would have liked to go with a Sequoia but the new redesign is garbage. So unfortunately I had to move on from Toyota for my vehicle though my wife’s next car will most likely be a Grand Highlander for the much better fuel economy and more space over the Sequoia.

 

[WRO]

I’ve driven a Toyota Tundra for the past 17 years, first a 2008 and now a 2018 and I’ve never had any issues with them though I’ve only put 67k miles on the first one and 45k on the second one. My brother had a 2012 with 126k on it, only major component to be replaced was the alternator and that was this year.

Starting a family now and need more interior space for us and the dog so I’m switching over to a GMC Yukon XL, I would have liked to go with a Sequoia but the new redesign is garbage. So unfortunately I had to move on from Toyota for my vehicle though my wife’s next car will most likely be a Grand Highlander for the much better fuel economy and more space over the Sequoia.

I wouldn’t spend .05 cents on a Stelantis or gm product, unless you have people at the dealership you like to hang out with.


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[StuckInTheEast]

2nd generation frames much more rigid than 1st. Not fully boxed, but plenty stout.
I had a '99 tacoma in my younger/dumber days.
Frame was rubber on that thing. I put that little truck through hell though and it never let me down.
It flexed so bad the bed rubbed the cab on many occasions...they would bend but not break...until they rusted through if you didn't get ahead of it.
1st gen tundra was pretty flexible too. I've no complaints with the 2nd gen though.

 

[WRO]

Boxing
1:20 is hilarious
Trying to make a weakness a strength
3.00 forward is the science

More have stock suspension than most, more secondary market for lifts etc than every brand out there.

People actually keep their Toyota products long term rather than toss them at 100k when the rest end up going to crap.

As the resident Toyota hater, name a replacement brand that’s as reliable with as good of service/warranty support. I’ve owned or used all of the big 3 brands as work trucks/personal vehicles. None of them have been as good as my Toyotas by a significant margin.

Of the current crop, we have both chevy’s and dodges in our work fleet (1500’s and 2500’s) they are colossal piles of shit, half of them are getting new transmissions/major repairs under 50K miles.

And all of the factory service out of dealers is horrendous..

 

[Thinkingman]

More have stock suspension than most, more secondary market for lifts etc than every brand out there.

People actually keep their Toyota products long term rather than toss them at 100k when the rest end up going to crap.

As the resident Toyota hater, name a replacement brand that’s as reliable with as good of service/warranty support. I’ve owned or used all of the big 3 brands as work trucks/personal vehicles. None of them have been as good as my Toyotas by a significant margin.

Of the current crop, we have both chevy’s and dodges in our work fleet (1500’s and 2500’s) they are colossal piles of shit, half of them are getting new transmissions/major repairs under 50K miles.

And all of the factory service out of dealers is horrendous..

My 2015 F150 with 174k miles is better in every way than my 2006 Tacoma was and Toyota completely screwed me on support for the leaf springs and frame rust.
Toyota literally said they didn't have to take care of me because people will buy Toyotas anyway.
It was the height of corporate arrogance for a known issue.

 

[StuckInTheEast]

My 2015 F150 with 174k miles is better in every way than my 2006 Tacoma was and Toyota completely screwed me on support for the leaf springs and frame rust.
Toyota literally said they didn't have to take care of me because people will buy Toyotas anyway.
It was the height of corporate arrogance for a known issue.

I have a hard time believing this unless you tried past the 2019 deadline.
I have first hand experience with numerous customer vehicles having frames replace under the extended warranty/recall back when that was a thing and if it was in the required time frame it was pretty much no questions asked, we will call you when your frame is in and schedule it to be replaced....they had to pull the plug at some point.

 

[CorbLand]

I have a hard time believing this unless you tried past the 2019 deadline.
I have first hand experience with numerous customer vehicles having frames replace under the extended warranty/recall back when that was a thing and if it was in the required time frame it was pretty much no questions asked, we will call you when your frame is in and schedule it to be replaced....they had to pull the plug at some point.

All your customers should be happy for ol thinkingman. He is single handily responsible for Toyota issuing that recall. Just wait, he will tell you all about it.

 

[Thinkingman]

I have a hard time believing this unless you tried past the 2019 deadline.
I have first hand experience with numerous customer vehicles having frames replace under the extended warranty/recall back when that was a thing and if it was in the required time frame it was pretty much no questions asked, we will call you when your frame is in and schedule it to be replaced....they had to pull the plug at some point.

I will PM you with the details.
I can send you the emails.
The arrogance started before they launched the leaf spring recall and culminated when the 7mm frame holes in the collapsing frame didn't measure 10mm yet and I was afraid to take it off pavement.

 

[Thinkingman]

All your customers should be happy for ol thinkingman. He is single handily responsible for Toyota issuing that recall. Just wait, he will tell you all about it.

I'll see if I can find the emails.
That goes back about 15 years.
According to corbland, I'm the only one with the issue and I single-handedly caused a North American recall.