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[Pistolpete28]

This has been known. I have stated for 5+ years that ELD-M’s are not AMAX’s now. Due to the small nose opening, and tip material- every once in a while some ELD-M’s produce narrow wounds- primarily the 22cal 88gr, 6.5 147gr, and 7mm 180gr. Not all of them, and certainly not regularly- Barnes TTSX fail to open orders of magnitude more often for instance. But it is something to be aware of.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Pistolpete28]

Would the 140gr 6.5 ELDM be less likely to do this?

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Yeah that’s what I’m running!

 

[HighUintas]

Yes the ones Form mentioned are the only ones there are multiple reports of it happening. I decided to not use the 147s for that reason, but I wouldn't worry about any others.

 

[bojangles808]

This has been known. I have stated for 5+ years that ELD-M’s are not AMAX’s now. Due to the small nose opening, and tip material- every once in a while some ELD-M’s produce narrow wounds- primarily the 22cal 88gr, 6.5 147gr, and 7mm 180gr. Not all of them, and certainly not regularly- Barnes TTSX fail to open orders of magnitude more often for instance. But it is something to be aware of.

interesting. what might be different from 6.5mm 147 vs a 140 that would cause the inconsistencies?

 

[Formidilosus]

Would the 140gr 6.5 ELDM be less likely to do this?

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It is less likely- and it and the 130gr are the 6.5mm ELD-M’s that I would choose. But every rare once in a while it can also produce wounds smaller than normal.

 

[Formidilosus]

interesting. what might be different from 6.5mm 147 vs a 140 that would cause the inconsistencies?

The jacket right at the nose is slightly thicker on the 147gr, and the longer, sleeker nose exaggerates the issue when the tip breaks off blocking nose opening.

 

[grfox92]

It is less likely- and it and the 130gr are the 6.5mm ELD-M’s that I would choose. But every rare once in a while it can also produce wounds smaller than normal.

And this isn't an issue in 130TMKs?

Im currently running 140 ELDm in my PRS gun, I'm about to turn it into a hunting/ match gun hybrid with a Bravo and want to find the best bullet combo that would be suitable for both hunting and matches that way I'm only buying and loading for 1 set up for the mass majority of my shooting.

Would a 130 TMK be the right choice? Im not convinced the ELDM isn't, but why not do everything to minimize error?

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[jonpall]

The jacket right at the nose is slightly thicker on the 147gr, and the longer, sleeker nose exaggerates the issue when the tip breaks off blocking nose opening.

Is it the same with the 88 vs 80?

 

[Formidilosus]

And this isn't an issue in 130TMKs?

No. Not even remotely. First, the nose opening of TMK’s is MUCH larger under the tip. Second, there is a void of lead in the nose of TMK’s, unlike most ELD-M’s where the lead surrounds the shaft of the tip completely. Lastly, the tip material in TMK’s squishes/or squirts out; ELD-M’s usually break off leaving the shaft of the tip in the nose.

Im currently running 140 ELDm in my PRS gun, I'm about to turn it into a hunting/ match gun hybrid with a Bravo and want to find the best bullet combo that would be suitable for both hunting and matches that way I'm only buying and loading for 1 set up for the mass majority of my shooting.

Would a 130 TMK be the right choice? Im not convinced the ELDM isn't, but why not do everything to minimize error?

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The 140gr ELD-M kill fine. But there are no current bullets that create wounds like TMK’s and as consistently.