The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[LONE HUNTER]

Sounds like a liberal.

Sure does.

I've reached a point in life, if someone is unwilling to defend their opinion on something, then they are very very likely full of shit.

 

[omicron1792]

Tikka tmk rokstock soon to be montana rifles. You don't have to push a brand to impact sales. Just look at the rokstok

No dog in fight. But the fact tikka and MRC are both on your list is telling. He also recommended a federal load to me for my elk hunt.

 

[omicron1792]

I bought a Tikka 223 to test the theory. Unfortunately, I didn't get the 77g TMK bullet in time to get a load developed before the hunt.

I hope to get a whitetail with one next fall. I expect it will do just fine. Deer are not hard to kill.

But, I note that Ryan doesn't hunt large game with the 223.

Also note that Africa forum almost imploded over him using a 6mm……

 

[bmart2622]

I guess that’s where JVB and his crowd are and why there is this battle of internet neckbeards on both sides

No, he says you cant and shouldnt....big difference

 

[swavescatter]

No, he says you cant and shouldnt....big difference

I think only local laws say you can't. They say you shouldn't, the 223 crowd says you should. Very few people on this planet have actual, documented and statistically significant datasets with a range of calibers and projectiles at various velocities. Those people don't share that data because it's likely owned by the entities that funded it.

What we're left with is internet anecdotes that likely don't include wounded animals and various rodeos that happen. On both sides. People ignore or dismiss the smaller caliber stuff selectively. Arguments arbitrarily weight shootability, penetration, weight retention, ballistics, wallop, etc.

I'll continue using everything from 223 to 7PRC depending on the expected shot opportunities and whichever rifle called my name that day. Unfortunately in my state I'm limited to a couple tags max per year usually. And I have a day job. And kids.

I just don't care to convince people anymore that smaller calibers with suppressors and reliable optics on Tikkas just work. I need those people out there failing to tag out so I can increase my draw odds

 

[jzeblaz]

So glad to know i won't be judge for my basic white girl white chocolate mochas.

If you're talking about Vault Coffee, all good. That place is magical. Still think about it 7 months later.

 

[Ryan Avery]

This is exactly how a lot of guys feel when talking about smaller calibers imo. I guess each shooter needs to figure out where the line in the sand is on when a rifle is not shootable enough to make the shot. I know you have built and shot a bunch of larger rifles, did you feel like you were not able to accurately shoot them at longer range? Or what made you have want to get down to a smaller cartridge?

I want to spot my shot in all positions. That alone will make you more deadly.

I switched to smaller calibers after watching my wife, uncle, and Jim Carr's daughters shoot many elk with a 6XC, 6CM, and 6.5 PRC shooting ELD-Ms and Dtacs. It's clear to me that JVB has not spent any time with these cartridges on elk.