The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[huntnful]

Ooooooo, Steve listening to JVB = the new truth for us! What a !

Hahahaha. I skip most all of them. But sometimes I like a good laugh during the morning commute . This guest is actual good honestly. His personal favorite elk setup was 7PRC with 175 ELDX. Not terrible. I prefer something with more oompf and wallop though…..

 

[huntnful]

JVB and Rob Spomer are thoroughly in the pockets of the monolithic bullet cabal, so it’s not surprising that they promote Barnes bullets.


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Agreed. There are definitely more advertising dollars spent on mono bullets it seems.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Agreed. There are definitely more advertising dollars spent on mono bullets it seems.

It’s not just advertising dollars. It’s lobbying dollars.

I’m open to the idea of using monolithic bullets when they deliver better terminal performance than lead bullets, but as far as I know that isn’t the case yet. But I am thoroughly skeptical of the “science” behind them and absolutely suspicious of the reasons dictating their adoption in various jurisdictions.

If I were selling bullets in 2025, I would probably be hugely in favor of anything that made almost all existing bullets illegal for “environmental or public health reasons.”


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[huntnful]

It’s not just advertising dollars. It’s lobbying dollars.

I’m open to the idea of using monolithic bullets when they deliver better terminal performance than lead bullets, but as far as I know that isn’t the case yet. But I am thoroughly skeptical of the “science” behind them and absolutely suspicious of the reasons dictating their adoption in various jurisdictions.

If I were selling bullets in 2025, I would probably be hugely in favor of anything that made almost all existing bullets illegal for “environmental or public health reasons.”


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Ohhhhh I get the view point now. And I totally agree. Of course I couldn’t prove lobbyist dollar spending. But I don’t like monos, especially the “science” behind making them mandatory in all areas.

 

[HighUintas]

I’ve run into the same thing. Actually have $20 Lee collet dies specifically to get necks down on some of the thinner brass that doesn’t get quite enough neck tension from the honed dies.

I’ve tried to minimize how much they size too much with most of my orders and am moving to more conservatively spec’d ones that do require a bit more of an expansion step.

That is a good idea. Have you run into any issues doing this?

 

[wind gypsy]

That is a good idea. Have you run into any issues doing this?

Issues using collet dies when the honed dies aren't tight enough in the neck? No. I've only done it on Alpha 6 Creedmoor brass which has thinner necks than Lapua. So far, so good.

Now that I have a Dillon 550 I might set up a toolhead for that brass so it doesn't have to make 2 passes through a press.. Decap, FL size with oversized honed forster, set final neck tension with lee collet.

Or if you mean issues by not getting them honed too big? Forster recommends spec'ing them 4 thou under loaded diameter. I thought I was smart by spec'ing them 2 or 2.5 thou under loaded neck diameter on my first 2 or 3 honed dies. Should go at least 0.003 though IMO. 0.0035 or 0.004 would be better.

 

[HighUintas]

Issues using collet dies when the honed dies aren't tight enough in the neck? No. I've only done it on Alpha 6 Creedmoor brass which has thinner necks than Lapua. So far, so good.

Now that I have a Dillon 550 I might set up a toolhead for that brass so it doesn't have to make 2 passes through a press.. Decap, FL size with oversized honed forster, set final neck tension with lee collet.

Or if you mean issues by not getting them honed too big? Forster recommends spec'ing them 4 thou under loaded diameter. I thought I was smart by spec'ing them 2 or 2.5 thou under loaded neck diameter on my first 2 or 3 honed dies. Should go at least 0.003 though IMO. 0.0035 or 0.004 would be better.

Yes just using the Forster honed die and a Lee collet in case there's not enough tension. I've thought about sending my 243 Forster die in to be honed to max diameter but didn't want to end up with too little tension if I switched brass. Currently using starline 243 but have considered lapua, Hornady, or even necking down alpha 260 rem

 

[wind gypsy]

Yes just using the Forster honed die and a Lee collet in case there's not enough tension. I've thought about sending my 243 Forster die in to be honed to max diameter but didn't want to end up with too little tension if I switched brass. Currently using starline 243 but have considered lapua, Hornady, or even necking down alpha 260 rem

I've migrated more towards the opposite direction because I dont like having to use 2 sizing steps and having to expand an extra thou or 2 doesn't really bother me. but.. now that I'm starting to load on a progressive, it really wouldn't add additional load time to have a collet die or mandrel in a different station. (thinking out loud here).

 

[Mountainrancher]

I’m about to be so much more knowledgeable than all of you guys right now . Because apparently the brass headstamp is what hits the elk and makes the hole…. And there’s 5 headstamps that do it better. All paired with Barnes bullets of course

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Between him, spomer, and the backfire guy you could find no joke 30 videos/podcasts on this same topic and somehow people will still listen like it’s brand new info.

 

[huntnful]

Between him, spomer, and the backfire guy you could find no joke 30 videos/podcasts on this same topic and somehow people will still listen like it’s brand new info.

Haha you aren’t lying! I get more of a laugh out of it than anything.

This guest was actually pretty good and transparent, despite JVB constantly trying to steer him in his preferred direction. That dude is insufferable for me to listen to just about lol.

Also the guest was mostly an elk guide, but preferred mule deer. So I was partial to him anyways hahaha.

Mule deer > Elk

 

[Odd1out]

Anyone have pics of the new bag from exo that form designed?

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[roosiebull]

Sadly, the company that sews our shooting bags' wife died during childbirth, so we don't have a timetable at the moment.

Ugh, that is horrible, I can’t even imagine what that family is going through

 

[roosiebull]

@Ryan Avery, you really should have Cliff on again to talk about horses and mules, I think that would be a great podcast, his experience and his personality would make a great episode

 

[blue_ridge]

Between him, spomer, and the backfire guy you could find no joke 30 videos/podcasts on this same topic and somehow people will still listen like it’s brand new info.

Click bait for rifle shooters:
“Best deer hunting cartridge”
“3 cartridges better than 308”
“Why your 6.5 Creed won’t work”
“The best hunting cartridge no one is using”
“Classic deer round that is still better than most”
“Is your hunting rifle powerful enough?”
“Your hunting rifle could secretly be gay”

Ok maybe not the last one.

 

[4th_point]

@Ryan Avery, you really should have Cliff on again to talk about horses and mules, I think that would be a great podcast, his experience and his personality would make a great episode

That would be great. Maybe with Ty Evans and the Younkers (Mtn Built) too.

 

[Ryan Avery]

That would be great. Maybe with Ty Evans and the Younkers (Mtn Built) too.

Jake would fall asleep. Tanya and I are considering firing up the Avery Adventures podcast again and focusing on mules and horses for noobs like us in the backcountry.

 

[Reburn]

Jake would fall asleep. Tanya and I are considering firing up the Avery Adventures podcast again and focusing on mules and horses for noobs like us in the backcountry.

Hell I would probably start listening / watching again if you figure out how to get jake bucked off like Robby.........
That was funny shit.

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[4th_point]

More throttle, when you hit sand patches, Robby!

ETA - moto guys might get that one

 

[will_brap]

More throttle, when you hit sand patches, Robby!

ETA - moto guys might get that one

You bet. Stay on the throttle and put the weight on the back tire, steer with the pegs and don’t touch the front brake.

4 legged critters? I don’t know how to ride those in sand. They always knocked me off before we got to the sand!

 

[4th_point]

You bet. Stay on the throttle and put the weight on the back tire, steer with the pegs and don’t touch the front brake.

4 legged critters? I don’t know how to ride those in sand. They always knocked me off before we got to the sand!

I'd expect nothing less from a guy named... Brap.

Elbows up!