The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

[roosiebull]

Yeah I was meaning Swaro binos and spotters optically perform well below their current price point.

I wish that were true. I agree when you get to a certain performance point that small improvements cost a lot more, it’s not a fluid value for performance. Find me some binos that perform like NL but priced like vortex, I would prefer light and robust too. You do that, and I will show you some badass pack unicorns.

 

[Timberline001]

I wish that were true. I agree when you get to a certain performance point that small improvements cost a lot more, it’s not a fluid value for performance. Find me some binos that perform like NL but priced like vortex, I would prefer light and robust too. You do that, and I will show you some badass pack unicorns.

Exactly. I feel like once you get past that $1000 price point give or take you’re paying increasingly more for marginal improvements. I use all maven glas right now because the improvement to ELs or pures arnt worth not being able to buy other things. I sure as hell will have Pures when I have everything else I need/want

 

[cottonant]

While I won't argue that some leupolds may work plenty good, and the general user will probably never notice any issues, I don't think use in PRS competition is a good indicator for durability. Meaning I don't think you can compare a 20 lb 6mm that is babied and zero checked before every competition, or even better carried around in a cart, to a 7lb high recoiling hunting rig that bounces around in an ATV. The other extremely popular scope in PRS is the vortex razors, think that is because they are so durable?

"a 20 lb 6mm that is babied and zero checked before every competition, or even better carried around in a cart,"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA - LMAO

 

[nobody]

I wish that were true. I agree when you get to a certain performance point that small improvements cost a lot more, it’s not a fluid value for performance. Find me some binos that perform like NL but priced like vortex, I would prefer light and robust too. You do that, and I will show you some badass pack unicorns.

It was just meant to be illustrative of my point, not literal. The point was that everyone defends their purchase, right or wrong, because we have lots tied up in our purchases and it affects our ability to be objective when things like this thread about Leupolds happen. Sorry for the confusion and thread derailment.

 

[roosiebull]

It was just meant to be illustrative of my point, not literal. The point was that everyone defends their purchase, right or wrong, because we have lots tied up in our purchases and it affects our ability to be objective when things like this thread about Leupolds happen. Sorry for the confusion and thread derailment.

For sure, like when someone is in the market asking what’s the best “******” and everyone answers with whatever they have.

If something is expensive and sucks, the owner of such products will still claim greatness.

I gauge products by “am I still casually shopping for this even though I have it”? If I’m still researching the competition, I probably don’t have the best.

It’s human nature I assume.

 

[hal0ofwint3r]

well i can claim i bought a 4.5-18 pr2 moa mk4hd, with mrad turrets. yes, moa reticle, with mrad turrets. had to test it at 25yds. 16 clicks and it moved two inches. and reticle is really canted. like really bad. sent it back, they said since i just bought it, they'd put it in the front of the repair/replace warranty line. it's been more than a week. not counting on their word for "front of the line". probably get it back in two months.