Silencerco Scythe TI review

[Runwilderness]

Two failures mentioned in 694 posts does seem a bit concerning. Not sure what an acceptable failure rate is for something like this.


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I would think close to zero. a supressor is a hearing protection device. Of course I shouldn’t pull the trigger after the prior shot blows off the suprssor, but if someone did and damaged their hearing because of a manufacturer quality issue, that would be much different than just having a trigger lockup or bolt jam.

Does have me a bit concerned as I wait for mine. Perhaps a blaze cover is in order…

 

[jtevanMT]

I would think close to zero. a supressor is a hearing protection device. Of course I shouldn’t pull the trigger after the prior shot blows off the suprssor, but if someone did and damaged their hearing because of a manufacturer quality issue, that would be much different than just having a trigger lockup or bolt jam.

Does have me a bit concerned as I wait for mine. Perhaps a blaze cover is in order…

My failure was with a 22” 7 PRC after about 200 rounds. While I was not happy about the failure, customer service was great and I received a new Scythe TI in less than a week (no FFL dealer needed). I will buy my next can from SilencerCo due to their great customer service.

It was quite the shock when it failed. I was not ready for the additional recoil and glad I was wearing ear protection. It took a bit to process what happened until I noticed 1/2 the can on the end of my barrel.

 

[littlebigtine]

Never heard of a tbac failing…

 

[5811]

Never heard of a tbac failing…

Never heard of a banish 30 failing either......

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’ve never heard of any suppressor failing in this way.


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[OneShot]

Had a shop call me last night to let me know they have 5 available. Almost makes me second guess purchasing one.

Silencerco had a recall on 5 different suppressor models recently due to weld issues.

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[wind gypsy]

Never heard of a tbac failing…

I haven't a clue of the facts but it does seem like TBAC would be less failure prone. If only they were lighter/cheaper.. They aren't without a few hiccups.

Thunder Beast Recall

FYI, from Zac Smith on Snipershide: We have discovered a welding fault present in a small fraction of the suppressors in some batches of Dominus and Ultra Gen2 suppressors that were manufactured in 2020. We are recalling, for evaluation and, if necessary, repair, some batches of Ultra Gen2 and...

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Dead air recently went through a pretty significant batch of failures too.

Dead Air Nomad Ti Severe Failure

I thought I would share this experience for a couple of reasons: 1) Information for others that have or are thinking of purchasing this or similar suppressors. 2) To see if others have had this happen and what the resolution was. For background, I have 353 rounds total through this suppressor...

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Same with gunwerks.

Gunwerks 6IX+ Titanium Suppressor

I don’t personally own any other 30 cal cans for comparison, but I have had my Gunwerks 6ix+ Ti for over a month now. It does what I want from a precision rifle suppressor: reduces muzzle report to a hearing safe level with my .308 Win and 6.5 CM rifles, repeatable precision mounting system for...

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[waspocrew]

Dead Air was having several issues with failures due to weak welds a year or two ago

I haven't a clue of the facts but it does seem like TBAC would be less failure prone. If only they were lighter/cheaper.. They aren't without a few hiccups.

Thunder Beast Recall

FYI, from Zac Smith on Snipershide: We have discovered a welding fault present in a small fraction of the suppressors in some batches of Dominus and Ultra Gen2 suppressors that were manufactured in 2020. We are recalling, for evaluation and, if necessary, repair, some batches of Ultra Gen2 and...

rokslide.com

Dead air recently went through a pretty significant batch of failures too.

Dead Air Nomad Ti Severe Failure

I thought I would share this experience for a couple of reasons: 1) Information for others that have or are thinking of purchasing this or similar suppressors. 2) To see if others have had this happen and what the resolution was. For background, I have 353 rounds total through this suppressor...

www.snipershide.com

Same with gunwerks.

Gunwerks 6IX+ Titanium Suppressor

I don’t personally own any other 30 cal cans for comparison, but I have had my Gunwerks 6ix+ Ti for over a month now. It does what I want from a precision rifle suppressor: reduces muzzle report to a hearing safe level with my .308 Win and 6.5 CM rifles, repeatable precision mounting system for...

rokslide.com

I was aware of the Dead Air issues, but hadn't heard about Gunwerks. I have two of their steel cans, makes me glad I didn't go the Ti route for those.

Hopefully the Scythe issues will be sorted out soon. It's on my short list for sure.

 

[Lawnboi]

A suppressor that light with no barrel length restrictions.

Someone was bound to find the line.

 

[littlebigtine]

I haven't a clue of the facts but it does seem like TBAC would be less failure prone. If only they were lighter/cheaper.. They aren't without a few hiccups.

Thunder Beast Recall

FYI, from Zac Smith on Snipershide: We have discovered a welding fault present in a small fraction of the suppressors in some batches of Dominus and Ultra Gen2 suppressors that were manufactured in 2020. We are recalling, for evaluation and, if necessary, repair, some batches of Ultra Gen2 and...

rokslide.com

Dead air recently went through a pretty significant batch of failures too.

Dead Air Nomad Ti Severe Failure

I thought I would share this experience for a couple of reasons: 1) Information for others that have or are thinking of purchasing this or similar suppressors. 2) To see if others have had this happen and what the resolution was. For background, I have 353 rounds total through this suppressor...

www.snipershide.com

Same with gunwerks.

Gunwerks 6IX+ Titanium Suppressor

I don’t personally own any other 30 cal cans for comparison, but I have had my Gunwerks 6ix+ Ti for over a month now. It does what I want from a precision rifle suppressor: reduces muzzle report to a hearing safe level with my .308 Win and 6.5 CM rifles, repeatable precision mounting system for...

rokslide.com

I was aware the recall for those gen 2 ultras but still have not heard of one failing. Probably just dont know enough people with cans to have a large enough sample size.

 

[fisherman983]

Ive been shooting the scythe alongside a magnus s rr. As far as suppression, there is no noticeable difference between the two when wearing ear protection. On a 10# 6.5 creedmoor recoil reduction from both cans allows for me to easily spot shots prone. Slight edge to the tbac. A more noticeable difference in recoil reduction imo between the cans on a 10# 7prc. Once again cant tell a difference in suppression while wearing ear protection.
My take is Im partial to the magnus s rr but its kinda a tossup when you begin to consider weight, cost and the particular caliber you plan to use. If I were to buy one of the cans just for a 6mm hunting rig: scythe. If I want more performance across calibers including magnums and cost is no issue: magnus s rr

I'd be curious how much louder the magnus is without earpro.
My whole reason behind getting a scythe was to shoot without it in instances where I don't have time

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[littlebigtine]

I'd be curious how much louder the magnus is without earpro.
My whole reason behind getting a scythe was to shoot without it in instances where I don't have time

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They both sound like my gen 1 ultra 5. All on 18” 6.5 creed. Fine for a couple shots but you definitely get a little bit of percussion. I think the magnus having the bigger can but more aggressive brake is equal to the scythes smaller can but less aggressive brake. This is all just my perception fyi.

 

[sickles107]

Been following this thread on and off for awhile now, and think I'm about ready to pull the trigger on my first can. Still slight hesitation going with the Scythe over hyperion k due to the failures. Weight is attractive on the scythe, though wonder if that also makes it fall more into the "light duty / more fragile" column. Hard to ignore @Formidilosus praise on the hyperion k, as about every peice of gear I have got from his recommendation has been an eye opener.

Anyone have any insight leaning towards one or the other? Or even other potential options? From what I understand the tiny hunting cans are not worth it.

Primary application will be year round field shooting and hunting on a tikka 6cm, rokstock, um rings, swfa. Think 2x4 of a setup. Minimal cleaning, got tossed around alot, just need it to work. Plan on chopping to 16 or 18", and want to stay around that 6" max. Durability is first and foremost factor, then second is to save what little is left of my hearing on unprotected hunting shots.

 

[wind gypsy]

I'd be curious how much louder the magnus is without earpro.
My whole reason behind getting a scythe was to shoot without it in instances where I don't have time

Maybe not that valuable of input but this is how I look at it - I'd still likely hunt without ear pro IF using a bare muzzled rifle. No way i would with a brake. The TBAC RR models are still quieter than a bare muzzle thus i'd hunt with one without ear pro. It's just weight, cost, length, and lead time that make the RRs less appealing on a hunting rifle to me.

 

[fisherman983]

Maybe not that valuable of input but this is how I look at it - I'd still likely hunt without ear pro IF using a bare muzzled rifle. No way i would with a brake. The TBAC RR models are still quieter than a bare muzzle thus i'd hunt with one without ear pro. It's just weight, cost, length, and lead time that make the RRs less appealing on a hunting rifle to me.

Makes sense. All my rifles have brakes less the 1 that has a scythe. Anything above about a 6.5 prc/ 58 ish grs of powder will get a brake. After shooting my prc, spotting impacts is almost impossible. I'd assume stock design plays a big part in that but I'm a pretty competent shooter and have good recoil management and it's still difficult. I feel anything above that would just get worse.



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[wind gypsy]

Been following this thread on and off for awhile now, and think I'm about ready to pull the trigger on my first can. Still slight hesitation going with the Scythe over hyperion k due to the failures. Weight is attractive on the scythe, though wonder if that also makes it fall more into the "light duty / more fragile" column. Hard to ignore @Formidilosus praise on the hyperion k, as about every peice of gear I have got from his recommendation has been an eye opener.

Anyone have any insight leaning towards one or the other? Or even other potential options? From what I understand the tiny hunting cans are not worth it.

Primary application will be year round field shooting and hunting on a tikka 6cm, rokstock, um rings, swfa. Think 2x4 of a setup. Minimal cleaning, got tossed around alot, just need it to work. Plan on chopping to 16 or 18", and want to stay around that 6" max. Durability is first and foremost factor, then second is to save what little is left of my hearing on unprotected hunting shots.

I don't think there's a bad choice between those. I have a scythe and a g1 u7. My scythe lives mostly on a 6 creed just like you described. I want another to keep on an NRL hunter rifle with the 3 port anchor brake so I can leave the one i have on the hunting rifle with a flat end cap. I like the weight/length/suppression balance and the option to add the 3 port brake for a little more recoil reduction. Its a compromise like anything else.

 

[Lawnboi]

Maybe not that valuable of input but this is how I look at it - I'd still likely hunt without ear pro IF using a bare muzzled rifle. No way i would with a brake. The TBAC RR models are still quieter than a bare muzzle thus i'd hunt with one without ear pro. It's just weight, cost, length, and lead time that make the RRs less appealing on a hunting rifle to me.

I’m in the same boat regarding ear pro.

I have dreams of a 14ish pound 300 norma with a full size Magnus RR on it.

I think cans with brakes on them are still in their infancy. It will be interesting to see where it goes.

Here’s an interesting article, note where some of the RR cans end up.

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[wind gypsy]

I’m in the same boat regarding ear pro.

I have dreams of a 14ish pound 300 norma with a full size Magnus RR on it.

I think cans with brakes on them are still in their infancy. It will be interesting to see where it goes.

Here’s an interesting article, note where some of the RR cans end up.

2024 Suppressor Summit: Hard Data To Compare 250+ Suppresors!

Recently, 33 suppressor manufacturers gathered to test almost 250 models of suppressors at one loca...

precisionrifleblog.com

Kind of dumb that PRB did that whole comparison with the milspec measurements 90 degrees from muzzle rather than shooters ear. Some of the RR cans did better than the non RR magnus cans because the sound is diverted more rearward toward the shooter which should be a negative in such a comparison rather than a positive. Fortunately all of the info is readily available and can be sorted by whichever measurement one wants.

Who cares more about how loud it is right next to the muzzle compared to where the shooters ears are though?

 

[Lawnboi]

Kind of dumb that PRB did that whole comparison with the milspec measurements 90 degrees from muzzle rather than shooters ear. Some of the RR cans did better than the non RR magnus cans because the sound is diverted more rearward toward the shooter which should be a negative in such a comparison rather than a positive. Fortunately all of the info is readily available and can be sorted by whichever measurement one wants.

Who cares more about how loud it is right next to the muzzle compared to where the shooters ears are though?

I didn’t catch that but makes sense.

 

[Wiscgunner]

My failure was with a 22” 7 PRC after about 200 rounds. While I was not happy about the failure, customer service was great and I received a new Scythe TI in less than a week (no FFL dealer needed). I will buy my next can from SilencerCo due to their great customer service.

It was quite the shock when it failed. I was not ready for the additional recoil and glad I was wearing ear protection. It took a bit to process what happened until I noticed 1/2 the can on the end of my barrel.

My buddy also was using a 22" proof carbon 7PRC with around 250 rounds. I think tubeless cans are inherently more risk or this issue because all the pressure is on the welds vs a standard suppressor which has the baffles holding most of the pressure and contained in a solid tube.

It certainly put a damper on my enthusiasm to get one but I do not think it will deter me in the end. SC was AWESOME to deal with. Can performs great. Running it on a lower pressure round would reduce the risk a bit I suppose too.
The only nagging thing in the back of my mind is cleaning intervals. Short barrels can collect unburnt powder in a suppressor. Not sure what that looks like when it ignites but could be a contributing factor. Maybe tossing the can in the ultrasonic for a quick bath every 100 rounds or after a match would eliminate this. Might even work just rinsing it out in the sink.