SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[PanhandlePilgrim]

What barrel length is on your 30 nos? How many rounds has that gun put through the scythe?

It's a 22" and I have about 15 rounds on it. After what I've seen it might just stay on smaller rifles and I'll just have to buy the something a little better made for that gun.

 

[JGRaider]

This problem of ours is SOO easy to solve.

1) we all chop our magnums to 10” or so.
2) get about a dozen of us to link up
3) the one dude who refused to ruin his magnum tikka takes the video
4) on count of three we all blow up our no length restriction scythes on video.
5) they finally admit there’s an issue.

Edit: man that sounds like it will hurt…maybe this idea isn’t too good.

The easier solution is to not buy one in the first place. SiCo has proven to be a joke dealing with this matter.

 

[intunegp]

Somebody who already has one should do a "torture" test recorded on video and posted on YouTube. If the can is flawed and SilencerCo fixes them quickly with little hassle and no questions asked it doesn't seem like there's much to lose. You could put the gun in a lead sled with some type of shroud/barrier if you were worried about injuries from increased recoil, shrapnel, etc.

If the can blows up, send it to every gunfluencer/NFA content creator on the internet and get the word out and maybe this discussion will finally expand beyond Rokslide. Every other forum where this is talked about seems to reference this thread and have a handful of reported failures that we don't know for sure aren't the same ones being talked about here...I'd assume at least some of them are.

If you can't blow one up on command, maybe SilencerCo isn't blowing smoke when they say the failure rate is minimal and it doesn't warrant a recall.

 

[TxLite]

Somebody who already has one should do a "torture" test recorded on video and posted on YouTube. If the can is flawed and SilencerCo fixes them quickly with little hassle and no questions asked it doesn't seem like there's much to lose. You could put the gun in a lead sled with some type of shroud/barrier if you were worried about injuries from increased recoil, shrapnel, etc.

If the can blows up, send it to every gunfluencer/NFA content creator on the internet and get the word out and maybe this discussion will finally expand beyond Rokslide. Every other forum where this is talked about seems to reference this thread and have a handful of reported failures that we don't know for sure aren't the same ones being talked about here...I'd assume at least some of them are.

If you can't blow one up on command, maybe SilencerCo isn't blowing smoke when they say the failure rate is minimal and it doesn't warrant a recall.

Sounds like this would be prime for a “user error” excuse

 

[JJ.]

Me too. I suddenly want a 16 inch 300 RUM.

Overkill. 19” will do it in 3 shots.

I think 90% of the people tracking this thread are paranoid. The other 10% are traumatized.

2 months since mine blew. My ears still aren’t right. Don’t know if I’ll ever be able to enjoy shooting it now.

 

[JJ.]

I’m currently testing an omega 36M on a 22” 338 EDGE. (250 pills ant 3100 fps). Over 50 rounds on it now and it’s doing fine. Quieter than I expected too.

 

[intunegp]

Sounds like this would be prime for a “user error” excuse

Doesn't seem like that would fly when the product page says no barrel restrictions and if the user manual included with the product doesn't have firing schedule recommendations or restrictions.

Direct from the Scythe manual, and pretty much the only references to how it should/might be used:

The Scythe-Ti is a premium .30 caliber suppressor intended for bolt-guns and semi-auto rifles.

It’s a great choice for suppressed hunting, long-range precision shooting or days at the range.

The Scythe-Ti is rated for centerfire calibers all the way up to .300 RUM and has no barrel length restrictions.

I guess my point is that nothing that is happening in this thread proves SilencerCo's numbers regarding failure rates are wrong and it isn't attracting a large enough sample size to paint a real picture of what Scythe owners as a whole are experiencing.

If SilencerCo is going to address the matter the issue needs to be talked about beyond a Rokslide thread and a YouTube video of someone blowing one up on command while following recommended use guidelines might kickstart that.

 

[Nine Banger]

I'd like to see a solicitation for voluntary return before failure. Or voluntary refund.

I have 2.

One is unfired.

The other one has 150-200 22-250 rounds on it and 150rds 223.

Why should I have to blow them up on my 6.5PRC to get them improved?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The worst part for me is that I have never fired a weapon that I had a real concern that it might fail catastrophically. Even though I am using it with a moderate cartridge, 6.5 Grendel, I just don’t have implicit faith in it the way I do with the rest of the weapon system. I bought what was supposed to be a reliable product, at great expense, and I am severely disappointed with my decision, even though it hasn’t blown up yet.


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[waspocrew]

Doesn't seem like that would fly when the product page says no barrel restrictions and if the user manual included with the product doesn't have firing schedule recommendations or restrictions.

Direct from the Scythe manual, and pretty much the only references to how it should/might be used:





I guess my point is that nothing that is happening in this thread proves SilencerCo's numbers regarding failure rates are wrong and it isn't attracting a large enough sample size to paint a real picture of what Scythe owners as a whole are experiencing.

If SilencerCo is going to address the matter the issue needs to be talked about beyond a Rokslide thread and a YouTube video of someone blowing one up on command while following recommended use guidelines might kickstart that.

Totally agree - a video would be convincing, especially if showing a failure with a normal firing schedule (not some ridiculous mag dump).

 

[waspocrew]

I'd like to see a solicitation for voluntary return before failure. Or voluntary refund.

I have 2.

One is unfired.

The other one has 150-200 22-250 rounds on it and 150rds 223.

Why should I have to blow them up on my 6.5PRC to get them improved?

I’d send mine in for replacement as well. I want to use it for magnums.

 

[TxLite]

I’d send mine in for replacement as well. I want to use it for magnums.

That would require another form 4 and tax stamp (assuming they don’t eat the cost on the stamp). There’s a better chance of them making a design change to beef up the welds under recall

 

[Bluefish]

Overkill. 19” will do it in 3 shots.

2 months since mine blew. My ears still aren’t right. Don’t know if I’ll ever be able to enjoy shooting it now.

This will be what gets a recall. A lawsuit or two for hearing damage due to a failed suppressor will get silencer co’s attention.

 

[Marbles]

This will be what gets a recall. A lawsuit or two for hearing damage due to a failed suppressor will get silencer co’s attention.

Wait, I thought only commie libs pursued gun makers in court, at least that is what I keep being told by the NRA. Remington 700 triggers work, Sig pistols don't go off inadvertantly, and Scythes only blow up after the user does something stupid.

Sorry, if not for being a smart ass, then I'd just be a dumb ass.

 

[intunegp]

This will be what gets a recall. A lawsuit or two for hearing damage due to a failed suppressor will get silencer co’s attention.

The lowest advertised dB rating with a Scythe from SilencerCo is 118.6 on a 16" 300BO. That's well into "dangerous/can cause immediate harm" when you look into what constitutes a hearing safe decibel range. I think you'd be hard pressed to prove that hearing damage occurred due to a suppressor failure when you were already sustaining damage with a fully functioning suppressor if you're shooting without ear protection.

 

[mtwarden]

For what host?

I was primed to talk you out of a Hydro K in lieu of a S model but reviewing the '23 TBAC summit results, the hydro K metered very impressively at shooters ear hanging with some of popular 7" cans. The S model was still a fair step up though.

I still think for limited firing schedules and 308 based cases and smaller and moderate length barrels, the scythe is somewhat attractive. If you're shooting 50 rounds of 243 or 308 through it a year on hunting rifles I'd really doubt there'll be an issue. Not saying there isn't fair reason to look elsewhere though.

19" 6.5 CM; they actually have a 6.5 can—so if I go that route that's the one I'll get

 

[ThreeOhSeven]

count me in as a paranoid follower

 

[Bluefish]

The lowest advertised dB rating with a Scythe from SilencerCo is 118.6 on a 16" 300BO. That's well into "dangerous/can cause immediate harm" when you look into what constitutes a hearing safe decibel range. I think you'd be hard pressed to prove that hearing damage occurred due to a suppressor failure when you were already sustaining damage with a fully functioning suppressor if you're shooting without ear protection.

The generally accepted threshold for immediate hearing damage for impact noise is 140db. A functional scythe is below that. Probably would not need to win, just cost enough to force a recall. If it is truly a 10% failure rate, even a 1-2% I think you could show negligence if they don’t address the failures. Now it will have to be someone who had a failure making the lawsuit, but if they are selling 1000’s per month and have even a 1-2% failure, that’s 20 people per month who are potentially exposed to a loud noise they were not expecting. Someone will eventually sue them.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The generally accepted threshold for immediate hearing damage for impact noise is 140db. A functional scythe is below that. Probably would not need to win, just cost enough to force a recall. If it is truly a 10% failure rate, even a 1-2% I think you could show negligence if they don’t address the failures. Now it will have to be someone who had a failure making the lawsuit, but if they are selling 1000’s per month and have even a 1-2% failure, that’s 20 people per month who are potentially exposed to a loud noise they were not expecting. Someone will eventually sue them.

There’s also the potential for injury to the face, neck, or shoulder from the increased recoil when the front half of the Scythe gets launched down range.


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[docdb]

My repaired scythe ti is back about a week later good as new, with a new corset too