SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[wind gypsy]

I'm definitely looking at the Nomad Ti, but also the OCL Hydrogen K—what I'm no longer looking at is the Scythe Ti

For what host?

I was primed to talk you out of a Hydro K in lieu of a S model but reviewing the '23 TBAC summit results, the hydro K metered very impressively at shooters ear hanging with some of popular 7" cans. The S model was still a fair step up though.

I still think for limited firing schedules and 308 based cases and smaller and moderate length barrels, the scythe is somewhat attractive. If you're shooting 50 rounds of 243 or 308 through it a year on hunting rifles I'd really doubt there'll be an issue. Not saying there isn't fair reason to look elsewhere though.

 

[FirefighterVT]

I have a scythe TI and run it on all 6 of my rifles the largest of which is a 300WM seekins w/ a 22" barrel. Are there any signs the can is about to fail? I keep looking it over every time i shoot after reading this thread paranoid.

There were no signs with mine.

 

[CoHunter1991]

There were no signs with mine.

Fantastic ha

 

[mtwarden]

I'm sure you're aware but for others reading there's an important distinction between the Nomad Ti and the Nomad Ti XC. The XC is the 3d printed one, the Ti I believe is welded.

Thanks- XC is the one I'm looking at I might be wrong, but I don't think they offer the welded one (Ti) anymore; they show it on their site as a "legacy product".

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Thanks- XC is the one I'm looking at I might be wrong, but I don't think they offer the welded one (Ti) anymore; they show it on their site as a "legacy product".

Yeah I think you're right, probably not available but figured I'd clarify in case people are googling for reviews and such.

 

[Bluefish]

Do you have any knowledge based on that project about if/how 3D printed cans can be repaired if needed? Not suggesting the UM project will need such a thing, just curious if you have any insight on the general topic based on peripheral exposure to the manufacturing and development?

I dont think 3 d printed can be fixed. It’s laser sintered in layers to be a solid part. Interlayer adhesion can be an issue with all printed parts. I expect once it’s fully sintered it can no longer be bonded and is unable to be repaired.

 

[BBob]

I dont think 3 d printed can be fixed

3D printed Ti parts get welded together all of the time. No idea why a can couldn't be put back together via welding. Take a look at the bicycle industry and welded 3D printed Ti parts.

 

[Bluefish]

3D printed Ti parts get welded together all of the time. No idea why a can couldn't be put back together via welding. Take a look at the bicycle industry and welded 3D printed Ti parts.

I may be wrong. My experience is all with plastics and paper printers. Dlp, sla, ls nylon. My understanding is the Ti printers are similar to the ones that do ls nylon. Just using Ti powder instead of nylon. Probably a stronger laser as well.

 

[wesfromky]

I dont think 3 d printed can be fixed. It’s laser sintered in layers to be a solid part. Interlayer adhesion can be an issue with all printed parts. I expect once it’s fully sintered it can no longer be bonded and is unable to be repaired.

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[BBob]

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There you go! Orbital weld to finish it up

@Bluefish Most of the bike assemblies are being joined with good old fashioned manual Tig welding. 3D lug assemblies to Ti tube for the most part but I've also seen complicated multi printed parts welded together to make a single part.

 

[mlevimadden]

I have a scythe TI and run it on all 6 of my rifles the largest of which is a 300WM seekins w/ a 22" barrel. Are there any signs the can is about to fail? I keep looking it over every time i shoot after reading this thread paranoid.

No warning signs on mine either before separating.

 

[mlevimadden]

Update on my warranty claim now that I got a shipment notification.

My can failed on 4/12 and I submitted warranty claim that evening.

I received an RMA from SiCo with return instructions 4/14. They requested to include the entire suppressor for return and I told them I could not find the front half. They replied that it wasn’t a problem.

I shipped the suppressor on 4/17 and it delivered to SiCo on 4/21.

I received a return shipment notification today (4/22) with a return delivery of 4/24.

I will post pictures of the new can and old pictures of my failed can when it was new if they look significantly different.

I didn’t push any questions on failure rates or over share my host firearm details as I didn’t want it to affect my claim prior to repair. I plan on requesting this information once I have my suppressor back.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Update on my warranty claim now that I got a shipment notification.

My can failed on 4/12 and I submitted warranty claim that evening.

I received an RMA from SiCo with return instructions 4/14. They requested to include the entire suppressor for return and I told them I could not find the front half. They replied that it wasn’t a problem.

I shipped the suppressor on 4/17 and it delivered to SiCo on 4/21.

I received a return shipment notification today (4/22) with a return delivery of 4/24.

I will post pictures of the new can and old pictures of my failed can when it was new if they look significantly different.

I didn’t push any questions on failure rates or over share my host firearm details as I didn’t want it to affect my claim prior to repair. I plan on requesting this information once I have my suppressor back.

Keep us updated. It probably dosent matter that you didn’t ask questions, it dosent seem like anybody has gotten any good answers from them.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

There you go! Orbital weld to finish it up

That was neat. I do think it’s dumb a manufacturer can’t destroy serial number X and make a new one that is X, “technically”.

 

[Nine Banger]

I wonder if there are any back-room rumblings at SilencerCo about a voluntary recall like Eotech did in 2017.

 

[HuntHarder]

I sent a lengthy email to them. I was re-assured that it is less than a 1% failure rate. They also said no more than 10 shots in a minute is their recommendation. Basically stating that most or all failures are user error. Oof. Not sure how to take that. I asked if they would make a public statement of acknowledgement? Sounds like no. I'm going to keep shooting mine and hope for the best!

 

[BBob]

Basically stating that most or all failures are user error.

So the question there is are they asking people who have sent one in for failure/warranty asked about their usage? If so okay maybe that's valid but if not then that statement means nothing.

How many of you that sent one in for repair were questioned by SiCo as to your usage of the can?

 

[Foster_65]

So the question there is are they asking people who have sent one in for failure/warranty asked about their usage? If so okay maybe that's valid but if not then that statement means nothing.

How many of you that sent one in for repair were questioned by SiCo as to your usage of the can?

I was not but when I called I offered that info to state this was not user error

 

[mlevimadden]

So the question there is are they asking people who have sent one in for failure/warranty asked about their usage? If so okay maybe that's valid but if not then that statement means nothing.

How many of you that sent one in for repair were questioned by SiCo as to your usage of the can?

They have not asked for this information during my claim. On the warranty form they ask for cartridge and ammunition as well as make and model of the host firearm at the time of failure, but those were the only questions.

I didn't get any communication or questions from SiCo once they received my suppressor and they repaired it in a day.

 

[HighUintas]

I am wondering if this 10 shots per minute limit that they're telling people (me included) is a firing rate that should be adhered to per shot, ie 6 seconds per shot. So if a guy shoots 3-5 shots rapidly with a bolt gun in a training scenario, and does it frequently even though letting it cool between volleys... Maybe that would be causing it IF the failure mode really is heat related.

I doubt that is the case. If it is, maybe I'll blow it up with my 223 sometime this year