SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[jbwright]

I've been tracking this thread for over a month. Ordered a scythe ti mid-dec after what I'd thought was decent due diligence. They're currently backordered but my order is in...has anyone"returned" a backordered can and ordered a diff can either from the same or another manufacturer? Or is that a no go?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Suppose if it blows apart I’ll just swap over to my rugged alaskan ti until silencerco gets it sorted.

How do you like the rugged Alaskan ti? I’m in the market for a lightweight can for my 22” 300 win and it checks a lot of boxes…..

 

[Foster_65]

Put me in the camp off a failure. Mine blew up today. Hasn’t seen a lot of use either. Blew apart at second baffle weld. Found my cover with the 3rd baffle in it 20 yards down range and the rest of the baffles and end cap about 50 yards down range. So two wells actually broke. No baffle strikes. This was with a 20 in 280 ai. The west this thing has seen us about 50 rounds of 300 prc from a 22 in barrel. Prolly 200ish rounds from an 18 in 6.5 creed, 150ish from a 20 in 280 ai a handful from A 20in 6 arc. Hope tge take care of this and it looks good when complete.

For those that have gotten them repaired, how did the repairs turn out? Will they use new baffles or do they repair with the parts you sent in ?

 

[mt100gr.]

Put me in the camp off a failure. Mine blew up today. Hasn’t seen a lot of use either. Blew apart at second baffle weld. Found my cover with the 3rd baffle in it 20 yards down range and the rest of the baffles and end cap about 50 yards down range. So two wells actually broke. No baffle strikes. This was with a 20 in 280 ai. The west this thing has seen us about 50 rounds of 300 prc from a 22 in barrel. Prolly 200ish rounds from an 18 in 6.5 creed, 150ish from a 20 in 280 ai a handful from A 20in 6 arc. Hope tge take care of this and it looks good when complete.

For those that have gotten them repaired, how did the repairs turn out? Will they use new baffles or do they repair with the parts you sent in ?

Thanks for chiming in. I'm still toying with getting a scythe....Hopefully you added your vote to the poll at the top.

Sorry I can't answer your questions.

 

[The Harbor Master]

Small sample size, but we are currently at a 9.375% failure rate. Interesting.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

I've been tracking this thread for over a month. Ordered a scythe ti mid-dec after what I'd thought was decent due diligence. They're currently backordered but my order is in...has anyone"returned" a backordered can and ordered a diff can either from the same or another manufacturer? Or is that a no go?

From what I understand if they haven't put the serial on the tax stamp yet you should be able to switch, which seems like if they're backordered they probably don't have a serial to attach yet.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Small sample size, but we are currently at a 9.375% failure rate. Interesting.

Sample size is growing. Just shy of 10% is way too high.

I moved mine on to a creedmoor today from a short barreled WSM. I’ll still hunt with it but don’t want to deal with the BS to have it on for practice.

They are going to get sued. I’m calling it now. Someone will get hurt eventually and they clearly have the evidence there’s an issue so proving negligence shouldn’t be too hard. Hell this thread could be used in court maybe .

 

[TxLite]

Small sample size, but we are currently at a 9.375% failure rate. Interesting.

Very small sample size considering the actual number sold and in use. I’m sub 300 SN and my buddy is around 20,000 SN purchased in November.

There are only 100 people on this poll. I wouldn’t put any weight on what the poll has generated so far other than to just keep an eye on it.

 

[PanhandlePilgrim]

No for me so far but now I am nervous to put it on my 30 Nosler +P, which i haven’t done only because the McMillan stock it was in split down the middle.
It's been on rotation between a 6 BR, a 6.5 Creed, and a 7 SAUM. collectively it has probably 500 rounds on it. I guess if I'm going to test it i better do it well before season starts.

 

[jbwright]

From what I understand if they haven't put the serial on the tax stamp yet you should be able to switch, which seems like if they're backordered they probably don't have a serial to attach yet.

You're correct....yesterday went back to the shop where I purchased the scythe late last year, and due to backorder (thus no serial # assigned), I was able to cancel my scythe order (picked the B&T sbrs 7.62 original). They were in stock and I had a serial # assigned to me yesterday.

Also, the gunshop guy I spoke with told me he thought it was ~2 years ago when SilencerCo recalled a certain batch of serial #'s due to one of the machines being out of spec. He was surprised to hear of the scythe ti failures I shared from this thread, and hadn't heard of any failures from those he's sold. Though I would assume the suppressor owner would go through SCo if they had a warranty issue.

 

[Foster_65]

Here is how mine broke. Two welds failed. Have the others only been one weld or is this common?

 

[dirtytough]

Very small sample size considering the actual number sold and in use. I’m sub 300 SN and my buddy is around 20,000 SN purchased in November.

There are only 100 people on this poll. I wouldn’t put any weight on what the poll has generated so far other than to just keep an eye on it.

An almost 10% failure rate seems like a lot since it’s a random sampling.

Too many other suppressors out there to buy one that fails this often.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

If they simply put out some barrel length/ cartridge restrictions I think the failure rate would change. Their claim of “no restrictions” is obviously a mistake.

The blast chamber is simply too small on the Scythe to handle the uncorking pressure from larger cartridges with shorter barrels. I’m sure the Scythe would last forever on an 8” 300blk shooting subs, but a 20” 7 PRC or WSM is a completely different world.

 

[TxLite]

An almost 10% failure rate seems like a lot since it’s a random sampling.

Too many other suppressors out there to buy one that fails this often.

Maybe. But not sure it’s a completely random sample across the scythes in use considering this is Rokslide and guys tend to be harder on their stuff than the general public.

Sico has done recalls in the past on high failure rate cans (omega comes to mind). I think if they were seeing a high failure rate come in for repair they’d issue a recall. Maybe we will see one in the future.

Still planning on shooting mine the same way I have been. Will post here if it dies

 

[dirtytough]

Maybe. But not sure it’s a completely random sample across the scythes in use considering this is Rokslide and guys tend to be harder on their stuff than the general public.

I can’t remember every post but most failures haven’t seemed like hard use when it comes to suppressors.

Still planning on shooting mine the same way I have been. Will post here if it dies

I wasn’t saying don’t use them if you have them. But this line got me thinking. Does point of impact change if you shoot with whatever is left of the failed suppressor on the rifle? Follow up shots are the trend on here. I used a couple myself this year. It would suck to lose a BOAL if Murphy struck right at the wrong time.

 

[Lawnboi]

If they simply put out some barrel length/ cartridge restrictions I think the failure rate would change. Their claim of “no restrictions” is obviously a mistake.

The blast chamber is simply too small on the Scythe to handle the uncorking pressure from larger cartridges with shorter barrels. I’m sure the Scythe would last forever on an 8” 300blk shooting subs, but a 20” 7 PRC or WSM is a completely different world.

This is a product issue. None of these rifles that we are seeing failures with are on the extreme end of short.

This is a little over a 1 year old product.

Who knows maybe the risk of injury from your suppressor blowing up is not large, I don’t know, but I’m not spending my money on one.

 

[TxLite]

Does point of impact change if you shoot with whatever is left of the failed suppressor on the rifle?

I’m sure it does. Poi shift is common with the suppressor on vs off.

 

[Tod osier]

This is a product issue. None of these rifles that we are seeing failures with are on the extreme end of short.

This is a little over a 1 year old product.

Who knows maybe the risk of injury from your suppressor blowing up is not large, I don’t know, but I’m not spending my money on one.

Yes, this last one was what did it for me. The use was very much what I'd call modest.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Yes, this last one was what did it for me. The use was very much what I'd call modest.

From what I’ve read about cans. Hard use has to do with cycles and heating. Not something that is normally encountered on bolt guns. Which nearly all the failures here appear to be on.

The issue it appears the “roksliders” are having is short barrel/high power.

I do think 100 cans is a decent sample size even if 20k cans exist. That said us roksliders are probably pushing barrel length more than the average sico consumer. Most of us are rocking custom barrels or chopped barrels. Not many high power 18” (or even 20”) barrels out there for random joe to snag at cabelas.

Even if it is 1% though (which my money says it’s somewhere that low in the total number) that’s way too many for a failure that could involve death or serious injury….really surprised we haven’t seen that yet on here.

 

[WyldGoose]

I’m curious if the cans that have failed were early production and they’ve solved the issue with newer made cans? Or if any were purchased in the last 6 months or so are also seeing some failures?

FWIW….mine hasn’t failed. Around 250 rounds of 6cm out of an 18” barrel, factory 108’s approx 2,800 fps.