Senate vote public lands sale

[mtwarden]

If you believe Mike Lee, I’ve got some nice elk hunting land to sell….. wait a minute

 

[Jason Snyder]

His latest proposal actually makes sense, as long as there's a reasonable definition of population center.

See my above post.

 

[TheTone]

I’d assume BLM lands that are within 5 miles of a population center, whatever that is, get some of the highest recreation use of any blm land. He’s a pure and simple con man. Let’s start by developing existing empty lands inside cities and then move on to farmland reserve inc properties. How many houses could be built on Deseret Land and Livestock?

 

[DesertPinstripes]

I'm seeing reporting that this proposal was ruled by the senate parliamentarian as not complying with the Byrd Rule. It's (supposedly) one of the Byrd ruling that are being released tonight.

Source?

 

[JohnJohnson]

Source?

Well at the time it was a tweet from a PunchBowlNews reporter but now it's been released officially.

Provisions Continue to Violate the Byrd Rule in the Republicans’ “One Big, Beautiful Bill” | U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

The Official U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

www.budget.senate.gov

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Step in the right direction. Still got to keep up the fight.
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We need to water the liberty tree with this guy


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[Zak406]

I still stand by no land for sale and have told the senators I’ve talked to as much.

 

[Poser]

I got a response from Hickenlooper. He's introduced an amendment to the senate bill that specifically prohibits the sale of public land. You can view it here: https://www.hickenlooper.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FLO25417.pdf

 

[WRO]

See my above post.

Agree to disagree, the FPMLA is bureaucracy at its finest.


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[mtwarden]

(202) 224-3121

Senate switchboard

 

[WRO]

What is the definition of a population center?
A community of 50 people, 10k, 50k?
I just don’t believe there’s gonna be any truly affordable housing built.

Increased supply usually helps prices, problem is still local planning departments and entitlement issues that will drive the prices through the roof and take years to process in many cases.

Not to mention the dumfuk local groups. We just finished up zoning a 20 acre piece between Redmond and bend Oregon. It abuts the major highway and has the same use adjacent. Oregon land watch waited until the last 30 minutes of comment period to protest it. We’ll still get it, but there’s another 100k in costs allocated to the dirt to get through Luba.


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[IdahoBeav]

Step in the right direction. Still got to keep up the fight.
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This is pretty good and a huge step in the right direction. Eliminating FS addresses most of the concerns. I would like to see language that allows for the sale of landlocked pieces up to a certain acreage, regardless of location. Portions of lots bordering private on three sides, up to a certain acreage, should also be included. I am concerned with item #2 on the list. It sounds good, but it should only be applicable to landlocked parcels and portions of lots that protrude into private. If there is a clear and simple boundary that separates a large swath of BLM from encroaching development, it shouldn't be chipped off and sold even if it is within 5 miles of a population center. The 5 mile boundary would just keep creeping along with development.

 

[elkhunter505]

This is pretty good and a huge step in the right direction. Eliminating FS addresses most of the concerns. I would like to see language that allows for the sale of landlocked pieces up to a certain acreage, regardless of location. Portions of lots bordering private on three sides, up to a certain acreage, should also be included. I am concerned with item #2 on the list. It sounds good, but it should only be applicable to landlocked parcels and portions of lots that protrude into private. If there is a clear and simple boundary that separates a large swath of BLM from encroaching development, it shouldn't be chipped off and sold even if it is within 5 miles of a population center. The 5 mile boundary would just keep creeping along with development.

In your opinion, would you say checkerboard should be sold off even with corner crossing appearing to be coming down the pipe? Or are we talking locked fully within private where crossing cannot occur?

 

[Jason Snyder]

I’d be much more supportive of any aspect of the checkerboard BLM approach if it provided for acquisition of accessible lands.

 

[IdahoBeav]

In your opinion, would you say checkerboard should be sold off even with corner crossing appearing to be coming down the pipe? Or are we talking locked fully within private where crossing cannot occur?

I was thinking lots where access is impossible short of a helicopter. Checkerboarding is whole sections (square mile) and it's too vast, but that's a good catch. It would be a good idea to include language to prevent the sale of these parcels in my opinion.

 

[IdahoBeav]

I’d be much more supportive of any aspect of the checkerboard BLM approach if it provided for acquisition of accessible lands.

Ideally, cattle ranchers would own the private and allow hunting, and the cattle would also graze the BLM the same as the private. Both parties are happy, and the complexity prevents the land from being developed, but we don't live in a perfect world.

 

[Johnny Tyndall]

What is the definition of a population center?
A community of 50 people, 10k, 50k?
I just don’t believe there’s gonna be any truly affordable housing built.

I spend some time around affordable housing advocates. None of them want this or think that it will make a difference in housing prices.

 

[FuddRucker]

With the sprawl and development he has in mind, the radius of "within 5 miles of a population center" will eventually come to include the areas we are worried about losing.

 

[jwatts]

Step in the right direction. Still got to keep up the fight.
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The amount of mule deer and elk I saw on what would be eligible BLM land in 4th season this year was crazy. Just because it's within 5 miles of a population center doesn't mean it's disposable.

 

[Crowmangler]

If the issue was really about housing for AMERICANS, then mass deportation of around 100 million illegal aliens will fix this immediately.

As Lee wrote... "protect our farmers" means Big Ag needs housing for millions of illegal aliens in order to keep them here illegally & pay them slave wages.