RokStok

[atmat]

I bought a finished stocky's...full ticket, how embarrassing that was their finished model. It would not pass for a blemished model in anything resembling the real world.

Sorry you had that experience. I’ve owned 6 of their stocks and never had anything negative with them. I would have called their customer service (which is fantastic) and gotten it resolved.

 

[waspocrew]

I bought a finished stocky's...full ticket, how embarrassing that was their finished model. It would not pass for a blemished model in anything resembling the real world. From ill fitting muffin top marshmallow recoil pads from toys'r'us, to porous finish sections all over, seems, the carbon around the recoil pad, concave, looks like it was cut off with a hacksaw, anyway...I'm guessing they are getting better but going through this thread they've had plenty of recoil pad issues and fit and finish issues so no surprise. And that's fine and dandy, eyes wide open if I get another and I might for the tikka, and no issues doing whatever bubba is required...but no bubba required on the sako, the only similarity is they are both called 'carbon' stocks, they couldn't be further apart and the price reflects so no biggie, there won't be enough 90's out there to inlet for them so it's a nonstarter and only the odd looney would think about downgrading to a lower quality stock on one. The right way is to just go kit gun tikka and for that they sound like a great upgrade, even still the quality won't be as good as the factory but the design will be better.

Getting the icks trying to imagine the regret of pulling off the sako stock and start crying as you faafo the stocky's one and try to get it on a 90 and still love it when you're done. My tikka will still be a backup loaner gun regardless what I do. Even if I build it into a rok/6cm/maven etc. the whole thing still won't get the nod to head afield with me over my 90 peak, my kids can carry it, I'm done carrying kit guns and sh1t I had to bubba which is about most things lol. If you think that stock will help you fill more tags then shoot it and find whatever you can that will fit in it, tikka's perfect, they will never inlet for a sako 90, zero demand and dang good reason for it.

Not really sure what I just attempted to read here.

 

[Reburn]

Not really sure what I just attempted to read here.

Head on over to the bourbon thread to find some nifty drinks that will cure your headache from trying to read that.

 

[Gravel Road]

Head on over to the bourbon thread to find some nifty drinks that will cure your headache from trying to read that.

I have a big glass of 1792 bourbon in my hand and it didn't help at all

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Still making assumptions Form. What haven’t I seen or done? Shoot guns I can watch it all happen and send more quickly? After 7 seasons with grendels doing that. It’s funner. Hasn’t filled any more tags.

Can you put statistical number to how much more likely you will fill a tag because of a magic stock? Is that what you’re saying? You’ll fill more tags because of a stock?

Don’t talk me out of one lol. Be nice if my heavier Tikka shot as nice as the lighter Sako so it’s on the list.

 

[Forrest.billy]

Still making assumptions Form. What haven’t I seen or done? Shoot guns I can watch it all happen and send more quickly? After 7 seasons with grendels doing that. It’s funner. Hasn’t filled any more tags.

Can you put statistical number to how much more likely you will fill a tag because of a magic stock? Is that what you’re saying? You’ll fill more tags because of a stock?

Don’t talk me out of one lol. Be nice if my heavier Tikka shot as nice as the lighter Sako so it’s on the list.

Rokslide tikka fanboys got nothing on this sako “90 peak” fanboy!

 

[Formidilosus]

Still making assumptions Form. What haven’t I seen or done? Shoot guns I can watch it all happen and send more quickly? After 7 seasons with grendels doing that. It’s funner. Hasn’t filled any more tags.

Can you put statistical number to how much more likely you will fill a tag because of a magic stock? Is that what you’re saying? You’ll fill more tags because of a stock?

Don’t talk me out of one lol. Be nice if my heavier Tikka shot as nice as the lighter Sako so it’s on the list.

You are the one making declarative statements about a thing you have never laid eyes on, let alone shot.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Sorry you had that experience. I’ve owned 6 of their stocks and never had anything negative with them. I would have called their customer service (which is fantastic) and gotten it resolved.

Good to hear. Although seen plenty in this thread showing much the same but also appears they are trying. That’s good. I was in pretty early to the stocky’s game. Way up in Canada just tend take losses and rant once in awhile hopefully people do their due diligence and get a sense for what they will potentially unpackage when it arrives and not have hopes too high.

I’ve got another brand worse sitting here, a Boyd’s custom order walnut that is beyond embarrassing in a fore end running away from the barrel channel from the shank all the way out and then cut crooked at the end. Sad. I tend to throw in corner and mentally block out the pain.

The Stocky’s was at least functional and straight, but it fit right in on the pos little howa I have. Definitely not good enough for a Tikka imo. I wish I did Pendleton instead. So a little leery. Will watch and see how these improve and get to a point of not wondering if it’s gonna be another lottery if I order one. I definitely don’t wanna see anything resembling the one I have. Factory Tikka stock is way better than that.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Rokslide tikka fanboys got nothing on this sako “90 peak” fanboy!

Something you’ve never seen or tried? Hahaha

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Have you shot a rifle with a Rokstok?

Oops sorry, didn’t see this one.

No, but have shot a rifle with better stock design than tikka factory (which is why I’m interested in one for my Tikka 308) and I have bought and shoot a Stocky’s carbon stock, and have a sako 90 peak carbon.

So any comments I’ve made are not speculation. Are you saying the Rokstok is not Stocky’a carbon? If anyone has both a Stocky’s carbon and a Sako carbon, they are miles apart, it’s like billet carbon vs toys’r’us carbon, hard to believe they can both be called carbon. A guy mentioned wanting a rok for a 90 and I shared my thoughts on what that would be like...Ferrari down to corvette. It’s already more modern with pistol grip And higher negative comb over the Tikka and shoots better, and no one is gonna touch Sako carbon. Period. So just helped the guy out that had the silly thought of wanting Stocky’s carbon on a 90. There would be regret.

So what declarative statement is incorrect? I have no skin in the game? The last 400 pages of this thread said everything I ha e about Stocky’s lottery and I learned it with my money also. I might still play the qc lottery if I try to buy another Stocky’s product. I’ll keep the factory stock happily if I play that game again and lose again.

Not knocking the design, sounds great, will watch and see them posted here and that the quality on each one matches the design and gets me to play roulette again. It’s not you...it’s them that has me nervous and it ain’t about the design, just the execution.

 

[Formidilosus]

Oops sorry, didn’t see this one.

No,

Then why are you making statements that you don’t know about?

but have shot a rifle with better stock design than tikka factory (which is why I’m interested in one for my Tikka 308) and I have bought and shoot a Stocky’s carbon stock, and have a sako 90 peak carbon.

The Stocky’s stock that you had is not the same as the ROKStok that Stocky’s is making. Yes, there have been QC issues that they have had to work through. However, the ROKStok is in every way a better stock than the Sako 90 Peak stock- I’ve used both. One other poster has used both. You have not.

So any comments I’ve made are not speculation.

What is the word where you talk about something you haven’t used or done?

Are you saying the Rokstok is not Stocky’a carbon? If anyone has both a Stocky’s carbon and a Sako carbon, they are miles apart, it’s like billet carbon vs toys’r’us carbon, hard to believe they can both be called carbon.

Again- you have no idea what or how the ROKStok is being made- it isn’t the Howa stocks.

A guy mentioned wanting a rok for a 90 and I shared my thoughts on what that would be like...Ferrari down to corvette.

Do tell how you would know that as you haven’t seen, touched, or used a ROKStok?

 

[Stinky Coyote]

I see you like the wood one, from another builder, no surprise, so would I, looks like that ship sailed quick. Design looks good, just gunshy on the builder of choice. Doesn’t look like wood is even an option to ‘remove that variable’ and sure as sh1t if you partnered with Boyd’s for volume wood it would be the same problems(poor execution) and big man would have to fly in there and kick some arse there too. Finners crossed these get to a level of production quality that there isn’t a lottery. I’d happily skip their idea of carbon though.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Then why are you making statements that you don’t know about?




The Stocky’s stock that you had is not the same as the ROKStok that Stocky’s is making. Yes, there have been QC issues that they have had to work through. However, the ROKStok is in every way a better stock than the Sako 90 Peak stock- I’ve used both. One other poster has used both. You have not.






What is the word where you talk about something you haven’t used or done?





Again- you have no idea what or how the ROKStok is being made- it isn’t the Howa stocks.





Do tell how you would know that as you haven’t seen, touched, or used a ROKStok?

That’s encouraging. But a little sales considering the previous 400 pages of Stocky’s doing Stocky’s.

You can say their carbon quality is as good as Sako? Or just the design is better on the rok? Just be truthful. Also since you shot the 90 do you agree it’s better than factory Tikka design and material?

Give an accurate perspective. Your all function over form so not hard to see how you’re steering this. You could care less about it’s quality fit or finish so long as it works and easy to see why, in a day it looks like hell, all good not afraid to beat on my stuff either. But I a out spit out my coffee when someone thought Stocky’s carbon was good enough to go on a Sako. That’s funny sh1t. And can you blame a guy who’s spent some money and read 400 pages with much of the same? I didn’t have to say sh1t, it’s already been said, just addressing from my Stocky’s and Sako experience to the guy who entertained the thought of that combo.

Good job on the design. I’ll wait a bit to see if the quality will be Tikka worthy.

Didn’t they just start to figure out how to make their recoil pads stay together? Rootin for all of ya lol

 

[Formidilosus]

That’s encouraging. But a little sales considering the previous 400 pages of Stocky’s doing Stocky’s.

You can say their carbon quality is as good as Sako?

Yes. Why do you believe the carbon is somehow less?

Also since you shot the 90 do you agree it’s better than factory Tikka design and material?

Why are you comparing a factory Tikka stock? That makes no sense, as this thread nor discussion is about factory Tikka stocks.

You could care less about it’s quality fit or finish

Do you verbally vomit with your fingers, or do you actually believe what you type?

But I a out spit out my coffee when someone thought Stocky’s carbon was good enough to go on a Sako.

What exactly- do you think makes a Sako “too good” for a ROKStok? It doesn’t matter about your Howa Stocky’s experience- the ROKStok isn’t that. So be specific in what you think makes the ROKStok not good enough for a Sako.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

I could give a flying fack how they shoot if they can’t even meet the quality of the factory stock...not much easier to shoot well than a factory Tikka. So again...it’s not you guys, it’s whoever you choose to build it, they put out a ton of crap sandwiches and earned the scrutiny but I already said...looks like they are trying to meet expections for a cool design. I await and watch to see if the next 400 pages are rainbows and unicorns after big man flew down to explain the passion in this crew is a little different than the typical howa buyer will tolerate.

 

[Formidilosus]

I could give a flying fack how they shoot if they can’t even meet the quality of the factory stock...not much easier to shoot well than a factory Tikka. So again...it’s not you guys, it’s whoever you choose to build it, they put out a ton of crap sandwiches and earned the scrutiny but I already said...looks like they are trying to meet expections for a cool design. I await and watch to see if the next 400 pages are rainbows and unicorns after big man flew down to explain the passion in this crew is a little different than the typical howa buyer will tolerate.

So you are unable to clearly articulate what you believe is lacking in a ROKStok for a Sako 90?

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Yes. Why do you believe the carbon is somehow less?




Why are you comparing a factory Tikka stock? That makes no sense, as this thread nor discussion is about factory Tikka stocks.






Do you verbally vomit with your fingers, or do you actually believe what you type?





What exactly- do you think makes a Sako “too good” for a ROKStok? It doesn’t matter about your Howa Stocky’s experience- the ROKStok isn’t that. So be specific in what you think makes the ROKStok not good enough for a Sako.

You and your crew in the casts make it clear you are function over form. Everyone knows that about you and it shows. No biggie, nothing to excited about. Some buyers though, majority, want a quality that matches a good design. You got good design, or so many have confirmed and I’m sure I would too.

Sako would work in that nice wood stock. Easy to see the quality from those north of border or no easy access to drive over and fondle one. Sako no question the quality there. Stocky’s lots of question there. The carbon looks the same to me, the thread talks about it a lot, my experience with same looking carbon, cheap thin hollow, poor finished all over, the seem work, pad fitment and execution the pad itself Mattel. Then you handle Sako carbon and it’s meticulous, can’t find fault and it’s like billet, everywhere, barrel channel, everywhere and feels like solid wood, not crap seems and shitty fitments and I’ll fitting pads. And it should be like that for the price of the Sako...great. Not even fair to compare them, the pics don’t even lie, look the barrel channels, it’s still Stocky’s. To say they even come close to the Sako is far fetched by all the pics here so far.

Your brain doesn’t work this way, you only care about function. You couldn’t fathom the factory stocky ‘quality’ compared...it’s like quality isn’t a word in your brain. As long as it shoot well. You won’t answer the questions about design of Sako improved over design of Tikka as I have em both identical loads and the higher negative comb is better design and the lighter gun does shoot much easier than the tikka...you didn’t notice that? Why not? Cant say anything positive about something other than the rokstok? Cant see the quality of factory Tikka stock way better than the howa Stocky’s? Yes or no?

You steer conversation only where you want it to go. Quality is a foreign word to you as you see it as only function related. Materials fit and finish feel other intangibles like sound etc.

There’s a different between articulating the same thing as already shown in 40” pages and my own experiences and someone who’s ears were shut at the start and can only talk about the main menu item. It’s all right here.

The funny thing is I’m not even asking for Sako quality carbon as that would be a couple thousand dollar touch. All I did was point out the guy taking about downgrading to Stocky’s from Sako on carbon would be regret.

I’m down for the Stocky’s if they can come finished properly and things won’t peel apart on them. Budget fits if that’s the case. Hasn’t been my experience and it’s backed up plenty in 400 pages so as I said, hope these things come out the box with a smile inducing effect in quality as in fit and finish not a wtf is this and get ready to paint it yourself and trim the recoil pad etc.

Tikka is worth a higher level of attention to detail and quality. At least try and match the quality level of the factory Tikka stock. My howa, any howa, isnot Tikka level quality so I accepted the match that I got lol. I would not accept what I got for my howa on my Tikka. The factory Tikka stock is twice the quality of the Stocky’s I got, which isn’t even above the factory hogue. Looks like were nearly there though. Will watch the next batches to arrive.

 

[kickemall]

Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

 

[Gstew1930]

Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

This made me laugh out loud . Ive never heard that before

 

[lak2004]

What a chit show overnight, someone needs to lay down the crack pipe!