Rinella DDD - Depublicize, Deglorify, Demonetize

[Jagger0502]

I do think there are different types of hunters that do it for various reasons. Myself and my family do it for the meat. We take a lot of pride in putting meat in the freezer, processing it all ourselves and every time we cook a meal we know the time and effort put into it as well as where it came from. On the other end of the spectrum I see the instafacers that are in it for the glory of a post that gets them hits. Sadly enough, I don’t think many of these folks are looking at it as substance and more popularity. If they look good and are successful they get “likes” and if they are are not successful they feel failure. That is the bad movement. To promote people to get into it for the right reasons is a good thing. To say “I like to know where my meat comes from” but have very little effort after pulling the trigger other than posting a pic is not. I ran into a group this year that killed an elk, 5 guys in archery that only took the head and antlers out and said the meat spoiled. They said they were 5 miles in. With 5 guys this should never happen even 5 miles in when they dropped it I ran into one of them hiking to meet his buddy that said he watched it die so there was no tracking, cell service to relay to his buddy to come help and two days later I ran into them again just walking out with the head. That’s poor planning and a waste of a lot of meat. That’s upsetting. These types of hunters in it for a picture to show their “friends” is not successful hunting.

meat eater bridges that gap that it’s not all about point shoot and then get the camera out and point shoot but it takes the game to the dinner table which is the ultimate goal. I think people are just not taking it to heart and not taking the lesson far enough. They think the idea is good but the effort it poor.

 

[roosiebull]

i selfishly like the concept, but i think we are so far past turning things around, or even slowing them. we are lied to by media constantly in every facet of life, and everyone wants to be famous and there are lots of platforms to try.

hunting is easier and easier to break into now too, with all of the information and tools (from people looking for recognition or money) look at the technology in weapons, tools like ON-X, the list goes on, and on, and on. i would love to see this movement get some traction but there is no way in can in todays environment, not in a meaningful way at least.

i have just accepted that continuing to adapt is the best way to have good hunts every year. things will never be like they were even 20 years ago, too much has changed, and too much money is there to be made through exploitations.... it is what it is.

i do appreciate Matt's point of view, it is refreshing, and he's obviously passionate about it, and i'm sure his brother quietly and secretly agrees with his sentiment.

 

[SDHNTR]

Why can’t people just go hunting anymore. It’s fun and that’s all the reason you need. I like the premise behind the movement, but it’s a giant can of worms!

 

[Broomd]

..... I ran into a group this year that killed an elk, 5 guys in archery that only took the head and antlers out and said the meat spoiled. They said they were 5 miles in. With 5 guys this should never happen even 5 miles in when they dropped it I ran into one of them hiking to meet his buddy that said he watched it die so there was no tracking, cell service to relay to his buddy to come help and two days later I ran into them again just walking out with the head. That’s poor planning and a waste of a lot of meat. That’s upsetting. ....

Ya think?! I hope that you promptly reported those wasteful flippin' arseholes to the proper authorities. Nothing changes until "we" decide to make the difference.

Wanton waste is a serious offense in many states, as well it should be.

 

[AZ8]

Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

 

[CaliWoodsman]

Saw the title of this thread and thought "do we really need a thread discussing Steve Rinella's bra size?"


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[Dioni A]

I personally think the "meat" movement is a crock of shit and puts the value of wildlife somewhere in the neighborhood of a beef cow. As much as I hate the narcissists on Instagram we need them. Hunters constitute a smaller part of the population than ever before. We need everybody we can get in this fight because the overwhelming majority of the country doesn't hunt. And the only people getting butthurt over trophy pictures are the people who don't like hunting anyways. I think this DDD movement is a step in the wrong direction.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

I guess Rinella got his and now wants to close the door behind him. Typical elitists leftist behavior.

 

[Spoonbill]

i selfishly like the concept, but i think we are so far past turning things around, or even slowing them. we are lied to by media constantly in every facet of life, and everyone wants to be famous and there are lots of platforms to try.

hunting is easier and easier to break into now too, with all of the information and tools (from people looking for recognition or money) look at the technology in weapons, tools like ON-X, the list goes on, and on, and on. i would love to see this movement get some traction but there is no way in can in todays environment, not in a meaningful way at least.

i have just accepted that continuing to adapt is the best way to have good hunts every year. things will never be like they were even 20 years ago, too much has changed, and too much money is there to be made through exploitations.... it is what it is.

i do appreciate Matt's point of view, it is refreshing, and he's obviously passionate about it, and i'm sure his brother quietly and secretly agrees with his sentiment.

Steve has brought this up alot on his podcast and I think on Rogan’s podcast more than once. Its been a few since I listened to Rogan’s podcast but I think Steve agreed with others in this thread about hating instagram hunters.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

Steve has brought this up alot on his podcast and I think on Rogan’s podcast more than once. Its been a few since I listened to Rogan’s podcast but I think Steve agreed with others in this thread about hating instagram hunters.

Steve is a leftist snob and looks down on others who don’t share his worldview.

 

[HighUintas]

I don't think he's necessarily speaking out against meateater or his brother. There are a LOT of other entities out there that match perfectly what he's describing.

Meateater has always been more about the food and the culture of hunting. They work on conservation and access issues. If they are "glorifying" hunting on the show, the only part they'd be glorifying is the food aspect. Those guys sitting around the fire grilling an elk heart out in the mountains is kinda foodie/hunting porn. AND I think it seems one of their goals is to show all the anti-hunting folk that hunting isn't just about an Instagram picture of your huge bull or buck.

I would say that what he is saying in his FB post is actually supporting meateater to an extent. Maybe with the exception of the insane amount of Meateater branded stuff in the last year or so, like the weatherby rifle deal.

 

[Idaho_Potato]

I personally think the "meat" movement is a crock of shit and puts the value of wildlife somewhere in the neighborhood of a beef cow. As much as I hate the narcissists on Instagram we need them. Hunters constitute a smaller part of the population than ever before. We need everybody we can get in this fight because the overwhelming majority of the country doesn't hunt. And the only people getting butthurt over trophy pictures are the people who don't like hunting anyways. I think this DDD movement is a step in the wrong direction.

That's a pretty wild view. The "meat" part of hunting was the whole point and primary value of wildlife for the past, I don't know, 50,000 years excluding the past 75 or so?

 

[Dioni A]

That's a pretty wild view. The "meat" part of hunting was the whole point and primary value of wildlife for the past, I don't know, 50,000 years excluding the past 75 or so?

Your choosing to ignore what I was saying. If the ONLY value we place on these animals is their meat. We have now reduced them to cattle. At no point did I say the meat wasn't very important if not the most important part. I'm just saying it can never become the only reason we hunt.

 

[22lr]

I would probably see the point if someone could show me a single study that shows a trend in total number of hunters that is rising. 2020 may be an odd year out but overall the trend has been negative for decades. Anything we can do to stop that is a step in the right direction.

 

[Jagger0502]

I do think the average age of hunters was prob over 50 just 10 years ago. The movement to get youngsters into it has been a good movement, it’s the fact that some or most youngsters are coming into it as a fashion statement for Instagram likes.
The main issue is that we are two generations removed from hunting being a necessity in life and this newest generation doesn’t understand that. And maybe we are not teaching them that.

 

[DWhitt]

The notion that a "grip and grin" is bad, makes me sick to my stomach. I have and Always will be proud of any animal I kill. I'll gladly snap pictures, mount heads, and eat the meat just like I always have. I listened to a Ben O'Brian podcast where he said you shouldnt mount animals .. Cant make this stuff up..

 

[Mtnboy]

I guess Rinella got his and now wants to close the door behind him. Typical elitists leftist behavior.

Reading comprehension is important, go ahead and try again....

 

[Squincher]

Your choosing to ignore what I was saying. If the ONLY value we place on these animals is their meat. We have now reduced them to cattle. At no point did I say the meat wasn't very important if not the most important part. I'm just saying it can never become the only reason we hunt.

Meat is the only real value of a game animal. The rest is just touchy, feely BS that was conjured up around the beginning of the last century to justify sport hunting when people started moving to cities in large numbers and the need to hunt for sustenance was greatly reduced.

 

[Steve O]

My comment was in response to another post, just trying to add context to a topic. Jesus, make a post mentioning a couple people that are sonehow “controversial” and this place starts looking like 24hourcampfire

Nothing directed at you chief. I find Rinella nauseating and the biggest shill/sellout/profiteer out there.

 

[Dioni A]

Meat is the only real value of a game animal. The rest is just touchy, feely BS that was conjured up around the beginning of the last century to justify sport hunting when people started moving to cities in large numbers and the need to hunt for sustenance was greatly reduced.

Tell that to the Fathers and sons who've bonded over hunting. Tell that to the people who found themselves by going into hard places and doing hard things for the love of hunting. Tell that to the group of buddies who gets to see each other for one week a year. Your argument negates the reasons that most people hunt and is a grossly simplistic view. For an incredibly tiny fraction of what we spend on hunting you can purchase captive bread deer, elk and buffalo meat. Why don't you just start doing that and save yourself a pile of money in time. Look at Africa. The areas were animals are only valued for their meat, there are none. If we want hunting to continue it can never become solely about the meat. Again for all the people who won't read my previous posts. I'm not saying that the meat is not the primary purpose just that it can't be the only one.